Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[HTG2016]

You have to start your RTW trip overseas if you want to combine 2 trips. So for example pay your own way to Singapore. Then base your trip starting in Singapore and Sydney is just a long duration stopover.

Thanks for this , looking at return to AKL instead of SYD to make 2 trips .

Looking to book the following

SYD-SIN 9/8
the rest of the trip sometime next year ex : SIN - DOH - LHR May 2019 .

Once you start the first leg of your award in this case after SYD-SIN have completed , will Qantas allow you to changed the rest of the award in term of day time and route .

Thanks

 

[jetpack]

Once you start the first leg of your award in this case after SYD-SIN have completed , will Qantas allow you to changed the rest of the award in term of day time and route .

Day and time only, not route.

 

[HTG2016]

Thanks

Day and time only, not route.

Thanks alot for your help , i am slowly reading from pages 200 onward to plan for my first RTW trip .

Trip to SIN is fixed for AUG and already cost 65K with BA J . not allow to change route mean i will stuck with what i can find before the trip start

 

[Jacques Vert]

Day and time only, not route.

Thanks


Thanks alot for your help , i am slowly reading from pages 200 onward to plan for my first RTW trip .

Trip to SIN is fixed for AUG and already cost 65K with BA J . not allow to change route mean i will stuck with what i can find before the trip start

My understanding is that as well as the same route, you have to fly the same airline and same class. Finding award availability for the new date can be your biggest challenge.

 

[tricky1337]

I thought if you wanted to change your country of origination, you have to cancel original booking and then re-book the entire itinerary from the new POS country.

Thanks. Rookie error on my end when booking initially!

 

[blacknwhite]

Hi! We,my husband and I,are planning a 280,000 J RTW ticket and need help.
We are planning this so far
1.Melb-Sing-Doh-Zur(already booked)
2Fco-Mad-Eas
3Eas-Lhr-YYC
4 Lax-Hnl
5Hnl-Syd-Melb
My question is are no 4 and 5 possible and what is availability like for July and August next year 2019.
I have looked on QF and BA executive and cannot see avaibility.How do and if I can,look on the AA.com site
Thanking you in advance

 

[knobbs]

Hi! We,my husband and I,are planning a 280,000 J RTW ticket and need help.
We are planning this so far
1.Melb-Sing-Doh-Zur(already booked)
2Fco-Mad-Eas
3Eas-Lhr-YYC
4 Lax-Hnl
5Hnl-Syd-Melb
My question is are no 4 and 5 possible and what is availability like for July and August next year 2019.
I have looked on QF and BA executive and cannot see avaibility.How do and if I can,look on the AA.com site
Thanking you in advance

Hi BnW,

4 and 5 sure are possible, can either go straight from LAX to HNL or LAX-PHX-HNL. You can find all the one world routes to a destination with this interactive map oneworld Online Timetable

As you are looking for July August next year I would say you can't see them because they haven't been released yet. I am looking at booking June/July next year for some other flights and not all those are available yet.

 

[blacknwhite]

Hi BnW,

4 and 5 sure are possible, can either go straight from LAX to HNL or LAX-PHX-HNL. You can find all the one world routes to a destination with this interactive map oneworld Online Timetable

As you are looking for July August next year I would say you can't see them because they haven't been released yet. I am looking at booking June/July next year for some other flights and not all those are available yet.

Hi KN,

Thankyou for your reply.Yes it is early but I have been looking at other earlier dates(March/April/May) and don’t see availability at all.Havent thought about LAX-PHX-HNL and will certainly be investigating.Do I look at QF or AA website for best availability?
We did a RTW 2years ago and finding seats harder to find this time round.At the same time,I am rapt that I found QF/QR to Zurich.So looking forward to Qatar J class.

 

[jetpack]

J awards on QF's Honolulu route are known to be very difficult to get.

 

[jewles]

Hi KN,

Thankyou for your reply.Yes it is early but I have been looking at other earlier dates(March/April/May) and don’t see availability at all.Havent thought about LAX-PHX-HNL and will certainly be investigating.Do I look at QF or AA website for best availability?
We did a RTW 2years ago and finding seats harder to find this time round.At the same time,I am rapt that I found QF/QR to Zurich.So looking forward to Qatar J class.

Be very careful with how Qantas ticket your Qatar flights. I had the opposite route (Zurich to Perth) and when I added more flights to my itinerary Qantas lost the Qatar flight and Qatar essentially told Qantas bad luck. There seems to have been ongoing issues with Qatar not letting their seats go to ticketing. Qantas ended up having to send me to London with BA and then release seats on QF10 to get me to Perth.

 

[nickfromeastryde]

Be very careful with how Qantas ticket your Qatar flights. I had the opposite route (Zurich to Perth) and when I added more flights to my itinerary Qantas lost the Qatar flight and Qatar essentially told Qantas bad luck. There seems to have been ongoing issues with Qatar not letting their seats go to ticketing. Qantas ended up having to send me to London with BA and then release seats on QF10 to get me to Perth.

I think Qatar do take them back into inventory very quickly however I think it also is Qantas being very slow to reticket.

We had the same problem, made some changes but also had to break our ticket into separate PNR's due to not being able to get on the same JFK-MAD flight with IB

Mrs Nick had her ticket updated first, then mine was done and QF then processed my payment first, Mrs Nick last. Net result, my new ticket issued correctly, Mrs Nick with the 2 QR flights on our itinerary missing. Luckily I noticed it on the My Bookings page immediately and was able to escalate straight away which QF admitted made it much easier to get corrected though still took 2 days.

My suspicion that much of the blame lies with Qantas because more recently we added flights to a different 280K award and the same thing happened with already confirmed JAL flights dropping off the booking (no QR on the ticket this time). It had taken Qantas more than a week to re-issue the eTicket which I strongly believe was the cause of the problem.

 

[SteveLL]

Be very careful with how Qantas ticket your Qatar flights. I had the opposite route (Zurich to Perth) and when I added more flights to my itinerary Qantas lost the Qatar flight and Qatar essentially told Qantas bad luck. There seems to have been ongoing issues with Qatar not letting their seats go to ticketing. Qantas ended up having to send me to London with BA and then release seats on QF10 to get me to Perth.

happened to me too. my doha flights were dropped off when trying to add legs. Luckily i noticed it 3 days later myself and the award flights were still available. I was able to get the 10,000 booking fee refunded though after making a complaint. Overall only costing me 280,000 points each after changing the itinerary 2 twice...

 

[jewles]

Does anyone have any hints on the best way to get lounge access at LAX without status? We have two stopovers (4hrs45 and 3hrs15) and despite flying on AA first we don't seem to get lounge access as they are domestic flights.

 

[Aussiejosh]

Does anyone have any hints on the best way to get lounge access at LAX without status? We have two stopovers (4hrs45 and 3hrs15) and despite flying on AA first we don't seem to get lounge access as they are domestic flights.

If you have a international arrival or departure on the same day they will allow lounge access (canada excluded)

 

[p--and--t]

Does anyone have any hints on the best way to get lounge access at LAX without status? We have two stopovers (4hrs45 and 3hrs15) and despite flying on AA first we don't seem to get lounge access as they are domestic flights.

If you hold a Diners Club card, depending on time of day, you can use the KAL or VA lounge in TB-Int regardless of carrier or class.

 

[kylebb]

Looking back into MEL-SCL to start my RTW booking for July next year and it seems i have two options

MEL-AKL-SCL with the AKL-SCL leg in LATAM economy
MEL-SYD-SCL with the SYD-SCL leg in Qantas premium economy

The latter would probably be preferable but for some reason Qantas is giving me weird routes for this leg (MEL-ADL-SYD-SCL) with the MEL-ADL leg the night before, despite plenty of availability on the MEL-SYD flights that morning. This seems really strange (married segment issue?) and the qantas rep I talked to on chat wasn't entirely helpful

 

[nickfromeastryde]

Looking back into MEL-SCL to start my RTW booking for July next year and it seems i have two options

MEL-AKL-SCL with the AKL-SCL leg in LATAM economy
MEL-SYD-SCL with the SYD-SCL leg in Qantas premium economy

The latter would probably be preferable but for some reason Qantas is giving me weird routes for this leg (MEL-ADL-SYD-SCL) with the MEL-ADL leg the night before, despite plenty of availability on the MEL-SYD flights that morning. This seems really strange (married segment issue?) and the qantas rep I talked to on chat wasn't entirely helpful

Won't help if you want to maximise your flights either as would mean 4 already used. I would try calling again and hopefully getting someone more knowledgeable and helpful

 

[Aussiejosh]

Looking back into MEL-SCL to start my RTW booking for July next year and it seems i have two options

MEL-AKL-SCL with the AKL-SCL leg in LATAM economy
MEL-SYD-SCL with the SYD-SCL leg in Qantas premium economy

The latter would probably be preferable but for some reason Qantas is giving me weird routes for this leg (MEL-ADL-SYD-SCL) with the MEL-ADL leg the night before, despite plenty of availability on the MEL-SYD flights that morning. This seems really strange (married segment issue?) and the qantas rep I talked to on chat wasn't entirely helpful

Have you tried a multi city search and doing legs individually?

 

[exceladdict]

Does anyone have experience with fuel charges if POS (and original departure) is from Singapore? Trying to work out an itinerary with a couple of breaks back home in Perth.

 

[OzziTravellers]

Hi everyone - have done a couple of Economy class versions of this over the years, but looking to do a Business one in the next 18-24 months. Itineraries in the past have not been overly complex, but I just tried to put one through the oneworld engine to check validity of flights for itinerary planning purposes and I'm getting a message "235: You have too many sectors within Europe Middle East region. Check the flight allowances and adjust your itinerary".

My attempted Itinerary was (dates don't matter at this point as it's not a real booking):
MEL - SFO (stopover #1 - 1 sector with direct QF flight)
SFO - MIA - surface sector
MIA - IVL (stopover #2 - 2 sectors AA/AY)
IVL - FCO (stopover #3 - 2 sectors AY)
FCO - AMM (stopover #4 - 1 sector RJ)
AMM - NBO (stopover #5 - 2 sectors RJ/QTR)
NBO - DAR - surface sector
DAR - MEL - 3 sectors QTR as likely via Perth

So by my count this should be 13 sectors (within the 16), 5 stopovers as allowed, transit through Helsinki and Doha twice and the miles are 33020 so I think this itinerary is feasible from the perspective of the primary rules.

So a couple of questions (as a few years since I've done this):

• Is this too many Europe/ME rule applicable to the OneWorld Classic Award?
• Are changes to a business booking now charged points - as I thought previously you could book the first online and add the others via the contact centre and not be charged change fees being a J class fare?
• I saw another post suggesting a Zanzibar departure - this airport is on the Oneworld Interactive Network Map, but isn't on the OneWorld itinerary tool - is this a possible departure point instead of Dar Es Salaam?

Thanks all in advance.