Not an Op-Up on AA

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  1. Altair

    Altair Active Member

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    It appears times are changing and AA has reduced the AA experience some more. What are other people's thoughts regarding this?

    Airline opens first-class loo to economy passengers - Travel - smh.com.au
     

  2. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

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    There are 11 pages of posts on this on flyertalk....

    I think its just a case of now people wont be shot for taking a pee in the premium cabin lav in an emergency - not the end of the world for me and not something I expect here
     
  3. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    My thought is ... Meh

    The number of passengers actually purchasing 1st class tickets domestically is pretty low with a large percentage being those using complimentary upgrades (EXPs) or Upgrade credits . Since most of the passengers are actually on economy class tickets then I don't see an issue

    On international flights, the restriction of lavatory use is still in place

    Dave
     
  4. NM

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    At least one airline keeps its business class lavs for the exclusive use of .... oh, lets not go there :oops: .
     
  5. Evan

    Evan Established Member

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    I took a renewed interest in my crew from NRT-SYD this morning and actually a couple of nice ones, and one real stunner (i think so anyway).

    This news story wont be forgotten in a while.

    E
     
  6. LOL... the Barbarians at the gate...

    UA enforces the "use lavatories only within your ticketed cabin". Indeed, they forbid strictly forbid any mixing between cabins at all, and they are quite serious about it, from what I have seen.

    But as NM has said, let's not go there!
     
  7. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    I'm very bleh about this "news".

    Short haul aircraft (or what I call short haul!) such as the 737 etc have a toilet at the front of the plane, and 1 or 2 toilets at the back.

    A passenger in the first row of economy has to traverse 20+ rows backwards for a toilet, when instead they could traverse 4 or 5 rows forward.

    Add in trolleys and other pax, and that's just a logistical nightmare a lot of the time.

    Who cares about the "sanctity" of the (cough) "FIRST" toilet on those flights. Like has been mentioned before in this thread - most of the pax in the "EXCLUSIVE" cabin are just freeloaders who used their ExPlat card or Upgrade stickers to join.

    Now for international flights, or flights where there are toilets at the front of economy, then pax should use the toilets in their class of travel.
     
  8. simongr

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    By that token anyone on a Business Class Award on QF is a freeloader - they just used their points to get the tickets.... I think that saying someone isnt entitled to the same class of service (i.e. because you didnt pay for a F seat you dont get the real F benefits) simply because they used their status to get the benefits of status is a tad harsh...
     
  9. SeaWolf

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    I find that a bit interesting, how does restricting the passengers to their class of toilet enhance security?
     
  10. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    #10 Mal, Mar 7, 2007
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    perhaps. I do see your point. I should have worded it better.

    But in America, First class is a joke for domestic flights. Mmm. Slice of pizza. Maybe a sundae as well. Extra Mmm. Don't forget the peanuts or pretzels! A few people paying anything more than a pretty cheap fare.

    I have several AA F sectors coming up in less than 2 weeks (admittedly, I am partially freeloading... YUP's!). I'm still the only pax allocated a seat on all of my flights in the F cabin. I'm waiting for the mad scramble and hoverer's hanging around the boarding gate while the Ex-Plat's get their upgrades...

    Compare that to Australia, or the European BA type flights.
     
  11. simongr

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    Let me know which flights - I am in the US from 17 March (ish)

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  12. simongr

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    By reducing numbers of people congregating and also maintains clear views of the access to the cockpit so the FAM can shoot people.
     
  13. SeaWolf

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    But wouldn't it increase the number of people blocking in aisle waiting to get to the economy toilets? Now they have access to fewer toilets it would increase waiting times.
     
  14. simongr

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    But they arent stood in front of the cockpit door...
     
  15. Kiwi Flyer

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    The economy toilets are at the back of the a/c, well away from the cockpit door.

    I'm surprised AA has made this change to be honest. Many flights for extended periods the FAs block the toilets with trolley so they/pilots can visit bathroom/chat.
     
  16. serfty

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    It's for these reasons that it's a rarity these days for an AA F cabin to have a free seat on lift off, no matter how empty the seat map is showing.

    If you are booking in an AA F cabin and selecting a seat; simply take your preferred seat from those available; assume you are always going to have a seat mate.
     
  17. Kiwi Flyer

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    On the positive side, it does mean you can book a YUP/QUP/KUP at fairly short notice and still be reasonably assured of getting first.
     
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