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trippin_the_rift

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In the past 12 months I've had 14 flights that don't earn any points/sc and these don't show on the activity statement. Almost as if I'd never taken the flight at all.

Clearly I have these QF/oneworld flights under my belt and using my QF membership as status is used on these flights.
I have 24 confirmed business class flights in the next 12 months but will not earn any points/status credits from these.

These don't appear to count as activity and I'm wondering what would happen after 18 months with no other points being credited to the account.
Do you think points would be lost due to 'account inactivity' even though my membership would be very active? A lot of these flights actually generate QF revenue, it's just that the program says they won't earn any points/status credits. In this sense - I'm trying to help QF but I feel if nothing appears on my activity statement it will be viewed as if I'd not done any flying at all. Does QF even track non-earning flights or they don't choose to show non-earning flights?

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I submit a missing points claim for flights that don't earn and don't appear in my activity statement. The last ones were on MH. This got them listed with a comment about unsuccessful claim or something like that.
 
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AFAIK, Aside from "Family Transfers" QFF considers "activity" as a transaction that adds or removes points from one's account.

Booking an award with QFF point is activity.

If this is a problem, maybe you could set up a virtual, perhaps behind a firewall, that one or twice a month does a search using the "Qantas Tool Bar" under the auspices of the QFF account in question.

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I checked - points or SC earn or points redemption: (Frequent Flyer - Discover and Join - Terms and Conditions)
9.2.2 All Points held in a Qantas Frequent Flyer account of a non-Active Member will expire at midnight Sydney, Australia time at the end of the 18th consecutive month for which the Member has not earned Points or Status Credits or redeemed Points (excluding any transfer of Points to or from an Eligible Family Member and excluding any conversion of Points from Aquire). For this purpose, Points earned in relation to Eligible Flights are deemed to be earned on the date the Eligible Flight was taken.
I was surprised that Aquire transfers are not considered activity.​
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I think it might have something to do with the enhancement to the program.

Last month I travelled: Brisbane>Sydney>Bangkok>Singapore>Brisbane>Sydney>Brisbane.

I accumulated 100 status credits for these flights.

Looks as though I am dropping back to Gold at this earn rate, or find an alternative, this just ain't worth it.

When I booked the flights for these hops a screen shot came up with a 190 earn rate for these legs but it didn't happen.

i reckon soon the lounges will be empty, I am wondering if that is what they are setting out to achieve?

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can you just hook up with the other edr card and spend 31 dollars at woolies? then dont have to worry about it?
 

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Is this a roundabout way of suggesting US airways redemptions, or the like, should count as activity?

Apart from staff/industry travel, JQ business without bundle, redemptions (award or upgrade), or special contracted rates, I can't think of any other partner business class flights that don't contribute to activity on QFF, provided you put your member number in.
 

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Are there any revenue fares on QF metal that don't earn points ?
I thought this was one of the strengths of the QFF program (that even discount Y earns points).

I thought it was only Classic Awards that don't earn ?

Happy to be corrected though, maybe this is a recent enhancement lol and of course that would not surprise me, not in the slightest lol
 

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Are there any revenue fares on QF metal that don't earn points ?
I thought this was one of the strengths of the QFF program (that even discount Y earns points).

I thought it was only Classic Awards that don't earn ?...
WoG (Whole of Government) fare generally don't earn QFF points, but do earn SC's so that keeps the FF account "active".
 

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There are fares on most if not all other One World carriers which earn no points or status credits.
And it's not always obvious from the booking.
I travelled on an ID ticket to Abu Dhabi in February but needed to book a "normal" fare onwards to Reykjavik.
I booked with QR specifically so that I could receive points and SCs, but afterwards discovered that the Y on my boarding pass didn't reflect the "actual" fare class, which was never communicated to me in any documentation.
So I put up with a long wait and flying via Doha and Oslo for nothing.
Even worse, Doha airport was such a disaster that my outbound flight was delayed and I missed my connecting flight to Rejkavik.
Three crew doing check in but a bottle neck with only one crew member doing a pre-check-in passport check at the gate!
Added Copenhagen to the list of airports I transitted on that trip!
 

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I have 24 confirmed business class flights in the next 12 months but will not earn any points/status credits from these.
I have very little interest in the US Airways threads. Are you purchasing US Airways miles and using these miles to book business class flights?

And I am guessing you won't let your QFF points expire. ;)
 

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I have very little interest in the US Airways threads. Are you purchasing US Airways miles and using these miles to book business class flights?

And I am guessing you won't let your QFF points expire. ;)

Some are points yes - in fact I've done a heap of trips this year on paid miles. The only downside is I'm not earning any points/sc from flights, but the cost saving is incredible so overall I receive much more value than paying for a ticket.
For my travel patterns it makes sense. I only ever book 1-2 weeks out for a big trip and this is often when all the good mileage deals are available. If you're booking months in advance then it becomes less appealing to use points... unless you're redeeming on Star Alliance. Then it's even easier ;-)

Now that you're in the LTG club it might be worth looking at ;) Keep in mind all the tricks/deals are never posted on AFF.... so you might be hearing half the story ;) Happy to share with you over a drink!
 

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Now that you're in the LTG club it might be worth looking at ;) Keep in mind all the tricks/deals are never posted on AFF.... so you might be hearing half the story ;) Happy to share with you over a drink!
I am Lifetime Gold but that means nothing to Qantas.

Can you do business class to SE Asia for ~$1200 then I would definitely be interested? I am not going to pay $800-$900 for an economy airfare on Qantas and then another $180 to allocate bulkhead seat which should be complimentary for loyal frequent flyers.

This was the straw that broke this camels back.
 

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Can you do business class to SE Asia for ~$1200 then I would definitely be interested? I am not going to pay $800-$900 for an economy airfare on Qantas and then another $180 to allocate bulkhead seat which should be complimentary for loyal frequent flyers.

This was the straw that broke this camels back.

I've done 3 trips to Asia in the last couple of months.

How's under $1500 return to south east asia on CX biz
or
~$1300 on TG in biz, or ~$1800 to north asia (eg: Korea/China)

No need to chase status if you're already in biz/first!
 

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I've done 3 trips to Asia in the last couple of months.

How's under $1500 return to south east asia on CX biz
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~$1300 on TG in biz, or ~$1800 to north asia (eg: Korea/China)

No need to chase status if you're already in biz/first!
You've sold me on ~$1300 on TG in business. ;)
 

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AA miles and or Life miles for you Johnny
Not AA. I have done the sums and it is ~AUD1,000 one-way in business to Asia but certain dates have poor award availability. The cost is too much for 5-6 trips/year.
 
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