My fellow pax

[Cynicor]

There are a few airlines where the numbers start in the teens for J then jump a dozen or so for economy. While many of us fly at least yearly, I know of many people for whom an international flight would be a lifetime treat. I think looking at seat numbers, and even ogling the J seats is pretty fair.

 

[AuSammy]

There is a vast difference between a typical AFFer and Joe Pleb on their first o/s holiday.

To borrow a phrase “match fit” is very much in the eye of the beholder

 

[Warks]

There are a few airlines where the numbers start in the teens for J then jump a dozen or so for economy. While many of us fly at least yearly, I know of many people for whom an international flight would be a lifetime treat. I think looking at seat numbers, and even ogling the J seats is pretty fair.

I remember QF domestic planes in the 90s maybe that jumped from row 10 or so to 23 where Y started. Never knew why.

 

[Quickstatus]

Never knew why.

Perhaps so that international and domestic seat numbers were consistent for class of cabin.

 

[serfty]

I remember QF domestic planes in the 90s maybe that jumped from row 10 or so to 23 where Y started. Never knew why.

On the 747's it was row 11 for Business, 23 for Economy in 1996.

Business did start from row 1 on 767 (200/300) and economy was row 23.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I remember QF domestic planes in the 90s maybe that jumped from row 10 or so to 23 where Y started. Never knew why.

Was 767s used for domestic sectors.

Was to try and give some consistency for the international fleet, with a standardised number for the first row of economy across aircraft types. Although even then it wasn’t particularly consistent

The 767s for a while started at row 23 (first row of business) and economy at 45. But they changed that a bit later in to business starting at row 1. I guess a few folk were a bit surprised to see such a high number for business class?

It was row 11 for Business, 23 for Economy.in the 90's.

1994 business class started at row 24 in the 767-300/200 and economy in row 41 & 45 for the 300/200.

By 1999 business was standard at row 1 in both the domestic and international versions, with economy staring at row 23.

 

[westsurf]

Don't know if it's been mentioned but after the screaming child toddlers is the, usually "miss", backpacker with three to four carry on pieces (which I am always amazed they get past he boarding staff) almost always last on the plane who then complains about no overhead et al.

Seen it too many times and most often in NZ.

 

[oz_mark]

I remember QF domestic planes in the 90s maybe that jumped from row 10 or so to 23 where Y started. Never knew why.

A330s do that

 

[Beer_budget]

A330s do that

If J always starts at 11, Y always starts at 23, secondary J cabin at 93 etc, then your seat number is enough information to direct you to the right queue regardless of aircraft type.

 

[kerfuffle]

People who are sitting in the middle seat (or at least once in domestic J in an aisle seat) who take your window seat, then pretend to act all confused and lost when you point out they're in the wrong seat. Wait until doors are closed before moving seats

 

[drron]

Well I saw something today that I have never seen before. An older couple walked past me in Row 2 and a couple of minutes later came back and sat in 2A and C. Had a good look at their BPs and they were for 2A and C.

 

[Flyfrequently]

Well I saw something today that I have never seen before. An older couple walked past me in Row 2 and a couple of minutes later came back and sat in 2A and C. Had a good look at their BPs and they were for 2A and C.

That brought a smile to my face @drron

 

[JohnK]

Chronic recliners still the worst. I know you cannot help yourself but if you see the person behind you is huge and is going to suffer then have some compassion for them.

And after they have looked at the first 2 rows of seats for the first number why do they have to keep looking at every row?
No row 28 will come after row27 not row 12.

Some airlines don't have strict sequential seat numbers as they try to keep seat numbering consistent across all aircraft.

Thai Airways domestic economy starts from row 40 after 3-4 rows of economy.

Some airlines use specific seat numbers for premium economy and if an aircraft doesn't have premium economy those seat do not exist in that cabin.

 

[Groundfeeder]

That brought a smile to my face @drron

Just another grand couple spending the kids' inheritance! OLE!!

 

[OATEK]

True, but… are you holding a business class boarding pass? If not… move on!

It could be confusing when rows aren’t sequential, so airlines routinely starting their business cabin at row 11 for example, and economy at row whatever. But confusing class of service is a bit harder

Theatres and statia are a bit different… don’t always go A->Z or 1-> …. you often have AA-?? before or after the regular seat rows, and boxes, and side seats!

I feel you have missed the point here. They know they are not in J. They are trying to spot where on the bulkhead/overheads, the row/seat numbers are printed on this particular aircraft, so that they don't hold everyone up trying to locate it when they get to their section. This varies between aircraft.

Nothing wrong with a bit of forward planning, especially when you have nothing else to do while being held up by others walking ahead of you. The 6 P's!

The Emirates 2 Class A380 was designed to confound when it comes to seat numbers. If you are in J your seat number starts at row 6, but when you board through the forward door (upstairs) the first row is 24. I have seen great confusion amongst J pax who immediately assume they are in the wrong place and want to turn back to clarify. It soon leads to congestion and raised voices.

 

[Quickstatus]

If you are in J your seat number starts at row 6, but when you board through the forward door (upstairs) the first row is 24.

Or maybe they then think they could be in F

 

[Noah Count]

Chronic recliners still the worst. I know you cannot help yourself but if you see the person behind you is huge and is going to suffer then have some compassion for them.

Sometimes it just happens, a few years back I was flying YVR-YYZ with my wife and daughter on a red-eye and they were in the row in front of me as they both are the recline types. Up until the day before the flight I had a shadow and then it was gone, I remember thinking to myself with my luck the PAX next to me may be large. Well I was correct, he was not that tall maybe just under 6 foot but was certainly a body builder. He had to squeeze into the seat, his arms were most likely the size of my legs, his shoulders just encroached into the first 1/4-1/3 of my seat and the same into the aisle he was just a big unit.

He was a very nice guy, when he sat down he gave me an apology in advance mentioning he was large and did no intent to encroach into my space but it would most likely happen. On arrival my wife who was in the seat in front of him was about to mention the seat must have been broken as it would not recline, then she saw the size of him and understood why.