MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

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One of the world's foremost wreck hunters believes searchers have found the crash site of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, and recovering the plane's black boxes is inevitable. "I think essentially they have found the wreckage site," the director of the UK-based Bluewater Recoveries, David Mearns, told 7.30. "While the Government hasn't announced that yet, if somebody asked me: 'Technically, do they have enough information to say that?' my answer is unequivocally 'Yes'." Mr Mearns solved one of the nation's greatest maritime mysteries when he found the wreck of HMAS Sydney deep in the Indian Ocean. He was awarded an honorary Order of Australia for his work. His advice was also crucial in helping to find the wreckage of Air France flight 447.

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Robbi said:
Not without combustion or bacteria to oxidise it into those products; It won't just evaporate into different chemical compounds. Some lighter components could volatilise if the conditions were right.

Most likely the bulk would emulsify, disperse and then gradually breakdown.
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In the atmosphere the sun breaks Jet a1 down to those parts. As per this paper, most is gone in 1-2 weeks.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp76-c5.pdf
 

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markis10 said:
In the atmosphere the sun breaks Jet a1 down to those parts. As per this paper, most is gone in 1-2 weeks.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp76-c5.pdf
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So it has to evaporate first and is then broken down photochemically.

And a number of scientists will be surprised to read that aromatic hydrocarbons are soluble in water. Maybe to a small degree (there are very few absolutes) but they are substantially insoluble.
 
codash1099 said:
So it has to evaporate first and is then broken down photochemically.

And a number of scientists will be surprised to read that aromatic hydrocarbons are soluble in water. Maybe to a small degree (there are very few absolutes) but they are substantially insoluble.
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What does it do, I am only going off what I read which suggests it would mostly evaporate in 1-2 weeks (then get broken down) ? I suppose its possible for some to find its way to the surface a month later, but unlikely unless something has caused the wreckage to move.
 
markis10 said:
What does it do, I am only going off what I read which suggests it would mostly evaporate in 1-2 weeks (then get broken down) ? I suppose its possible for some to find its way to the surface a month later, but unlikely unless something has caused the wreckage to move.
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The "Arizona" in Pearl Harbor hasn't moved in years but it's still leaking. There are, of course, considerable differences between the two, but it shows you don't necessarily need movement of the wreck. Just enough fuel and a small escape path, which may be unlikely in the current case.
 
codash1099 said:
The "Arizona" in Pearl Harbor hasn't moved in years but it's still leaking. There are, of course, considerable differences between the two, but it shows you don't necessarily need movement of the wreck. Just enough fuel and a small escape path, which may be unlikely in the current case.
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I think thats a poor comparison since its fuel lines are unlikely to be aluminium and subject to a pressure of 500 atmoshperes which is possibly the case with MH370.
 
The autonomous underwater vehicle has got a reputation Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: Underwater search for MH370 has a week, says Tony Abbott

The man who led the search for aviation pioneer Amelia Earhart's plane in the Pacific Ocean has been critical of the Bluefin-21.

"I can tell you it didn't work for us," Richard Gillespie, founder of the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, told CNN. "We were very hopeful the Bluefin-21 would be the answer - the way to search for this very hard to find wreckage. "What we found was the Bluefin-21 couldn't perform reliably.

"We had extremely frustrating aborted missions, just as we have seen in the Indian Ocean.



 
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QF WP said:
I liked it until his wrap up - then he lost it for my liking.
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What the video finally shows is how easy it was to turn off the ACARs, the Transponder, control the heading and altitude. Very little training needed. Most of us could have locked the door, pushed the buttons, turned the knobs and "flown" the a/c. No great skill or knowledge required.
 
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FxTrader said:
What the video finally shows is how easy it was to turn off the ACARs, the Transponder, control the heading and altitude. Very little training needed. Most of us could have locked the door, pushed the buttons, turned the knobs and "flown" the a/c. No great skill or knowledge required.
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I mentioned that about a 1000 posts ago but some people did not want to believe.
 
There was a French Navy aircraft at SYD yesterday. Anyone know if it is linked to the search or what it was doing?
 
I flew into PER this afternoon and saw a grey (army??) 4 engine plane sitting off the tarmac - too far away to get rego and couldn't take a photo. Looked like it had covers over the engines. I thought these were all at Pearce??
 
QF WP said:
I flew into PER this afternoon and saw a grey (army??) 4 engine plane sitting off the tarmac - too far away to get rego and couldn't take a photo. Looked like it had covers over the engines. I thought these were all at Pearce??
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That would be one of the Chinese planes, they are at PER with the P8.
 
kpc said:
Well..we've heard this before.... until confirmed MH370 wreckage is found, I think most of us will be rather non plussed with this sort of news now.
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It was a link to the Chinese plane photo, not the old news.
 
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