MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[whatmeworry]

What was the purpose of today's Press Conference - there was nothing new to announce. Why did the Defence Minister need to be there? Angus Houston has done a fine job of managing this so far - always playing with a straight bat and impressing a lot of people with his approach. I hope there is no more politicizing of this, there was enough of that in the first few weeks. Let the experts get on with the job and leave politics out of it.

Sounds like the defence minister wanted his 15min

I got the vague impression that they were expecting something more substantial to announce. Take comfort that the Minister didn't get to bathe in the reflected glory of "We've (probably) found it"

Don't forget that the majority of Pax are Chinese, who happen to be our biggest trading partner. Tony Abbott and friends realise that this disaster is their way of gaining good favour with our Chinese overloads, not to mention the benefits the politicians think they will gain personally and for their party.

 

[RooFlyer]

Interesting story on SBS news just now. Report from the US on a visit to a 'pinger manufacturer' in Miami. Not a huge adition to the collective wisdom, but interesting never-the-less. Worth chasing up if you are wondering about the mechanics of the 'pinger'.

 

[alieninperth]

What I really waht to know is how they knew to deploy the pinger in the first place. Unless I've missed it, and it's probable/possible that I have, there has been no debris from the plane found, and this search area is nowhere near the other one.

 

[Archphoto]

Maybe after the recalculation a and with time running out, they decided to throw in the line and see what they might hook?

 

[Trakman]

What I really waht to know is how they knew to deploy the pinger in the first place. Unless I've missed it, and it's probable/possible that I have, there has been no debris from the plane found, and this search area is nowhere near the other one.

Guess is that a US sub heard something and passed it on - they never confirm or deny their presence. There is a UK nuclear sub roaming around - if that heard something then they could publicly disclose it. Apparently they are keeping it out of the close search zone to keep the background noise down. There is at least one chinese sub there as well, but if they found something they would probably pass it on to their own ships first who can then publicly "find" it. There is a lot going on out there that we will not be told.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

There is at least one chinese sub there as well, but if they found something they would probably pass it on to their own ships first who can then publicly "find" it. There is a lot going on out there that we will not be told.

Wasn't it a Chinese ship that heard the first ping?

 

[QF WP]

More conspiracy theorists in with their opinion.

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What is the likelihood they are on Deigo Garcia - ah, I think none. An emergency landing perhaps, but that would have been telegraphed across the world by now.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Guess is that a US sub heard something and passed it on - they never confirm or deny their presence. There is a UK nuclear sub roaming around - if that heard something then they could publicly disclose it. Apparently they are keeping it out of the close search zone to keep the background noise down. There is at least one chinese sub there as well, but if they found something they would probably pass it on to their own ships first who can then publicly "find" it. There is a lot going on out there that we will not be told.

As I and others have previously noted various governments have various information, much of which will probably never be made public.

Who heard the first ping? We may well never know. The announcement that the Chinese Ship was the first, may well be a cover story.

There were no surface debris found, and yet the Chinese Ship suddenly searched in a new area to find the ping?

And the Australian Ship..also suddenly appeared in a slightly different location, and most notably not in any of the areas that the satellites had identified to find another and reportedly stronger ping (reflections. inversion layers etc can scatter the source), and probably stronger ping. Again without surface debris.

That would suggest to me that both the Chinese and the Australian ships had some other form of information to locate them where they looked. It is a huge area to otherwise be so precise...and the Australian Ship seemed to suddenly appear in exactly the correct location, without deploying elsewhere first.

Now whether it was US and Chinese Subs......Pine Gap Radar...other spyware.....one can only speculate.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Still two things that to me remain odd:

1) Where is any debris? surely its not correct to have absolutely no debris at all, they would know the drift from currents from the undersea ping location(s) and so should know where to look for anything that may float.
2) How do the undersea ping location(s) relate to the estimated position where fuel would run out? Assuming that no one was controlling the aircraft, the impact point would be where fuel ran out. If this doesn't tie up with the both the ping location(s) and the Satellite Ping arcs, someone must've been in control of the plane to the end, either circling around a position or veering in a "not-straight" course.

 

[drron]

When HMAS Sydney was sunk by the Emden not far from the search area there was no debris found until some washed up on Christmas Island 3 months later.
It is a month since MH370 disappeared and a cyclone went through the northern part of the search zone so Probably nothing will be found until sometning comes ashore in a couple of months.

 

[alieninperth]

Were they searchiing for HMAS Sydney with satellites, and fleets of boats and planes? I would have thought that something wold have been found especially in the area where they magically found the ping.

 

[markis10]

Were they searchiing for HMAS Sydney with satellites, and fleets of boats and planes? I would have thought that something wold have been found especially in the area where they magically found the ping.

They will probably find something now that they have a probable impact area to work from, although a lot of the initial floating material would now have sunk.

 

[prozac]

They will probably find something now that they have a probable impact area to work from, although a lot of the initial floating material would now have sunk.

The deeper you go the heavier stuff gets....just sayin'.

 

[wmetz]

My question is after the gov claimed many times to have found it, when will they try to give up, and not look unprofessional , putting it mildly.

 

[burmans]

My question is after the gov claimed many times to have found it, when will they try to give up, and not look unprofessional , putting it mildly.

I think you have not been listening closely enough, they have never claimed to have found anything aside from referring to information as promising.

 

[markis10]

I think you have not been listening closely enough, they have never claimed to have found anything aside from referring to information as promising.

Agree, pretty amazed at the progress they have achieved, to get a pinger reading is amazing in the context of this bizarre series of events.

 

[moa999]

Still a couple of days ago it was suggested they would send down the remote vehicle with just one more pinger.

Now with two more they are saying they still need to triangulate more and can cover 6x the area with towed pinger v remote vehicle

 

[amaroo]

I think you have not been listening closely enough, they have never claimed to have found anything aside from referring to information as promising.

+ 1

Professional performance by all who have had a role in the Aus side of the search.

 

[Trakman]

Still a couple of days ago it was suggested they would send down the remote vehicle with just one more pinger.

Now with two more they are saying they still need to triangulate more and can cover 6x the area with towed pinger v remote vehicle

Huston said very clearly today that they will continue with the surface detection until they are confident that the batteries have run out. The reporters pushed him on when that would be but he would not be drawn. He pointed out that the latest pings were very weak and that the deployment of the remote submersible is not far away.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Huston said very clearly today that they will continue with the surface detection until they are confident that the batteries have run out. The reporters pushed him on when that would be but he would not be drawn. He pointed out that the latest pings were very weak and that the deployment of the remote submersible is not far away.

I've read elsewhere, that the surface detection can cover roughly 6x times the area in one day that the underwater submersibles can. So until they are certain the pings are exhausted, its more efficient to continue up top.