Melbourne airport redevelopment

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interesting time in Melbourne as well.

Just days after Sydney Airport announced plans to shuffle airlines between existing terminals by 2019, Melbourne is gearing up to have a new interconnected domestic terminal running by mid-2014.

Melbourne Airport poised to spread its wings

Sounds like they are revamping the dog box that is terminal 3 and building a whole new (connected) terminal 4.
 
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So the question is, did you read the master plan before you posted that, or did Melbourne Airport read your post and think "what a great idea!" :mrgreen:

Obviously the latter. :)

Seriously, i think it's kinda obvious if you spend any time there and i suspect the folks at Melbourne airport spend almost as much time there as i do. FWIW the old master plan had no reference to any of this work from memory and it always struck me as a strange omission.
 
Obviously the latter. :)

Seriously, i think it's kinda obvious if you spend any time there and i suspect the folks at Melbourne airport spend almost as much time there as i do. FWIW the old master plan had no reference to any of this work from memory and it always struck me as a strange omission.

I figured it was the latter! :lol:

on a serious note, I did think the ramps were part of it, although I haven't looked through it for some time. However my pet hate at MEL and the current departure ramp are the pedestrian crossings which hold up so much traffic. The need to be moved above the road so they don't stop traffic in the morning. And add another lane so you can get to the QF terminal easier.
 
Seems to be something of a refinement of the T5 concept that was being kicked around earlier this year (Cookies must be enabled | The Australian).

I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for things being better. At several airports in this country there are two domestic offerings - the Qantas owned terminals, and the common user terminals that the airport runs. In most cases, I prefer the Qantas offering over the common user offering. I fear that the redevlopment will just have us walking around a depratment store for a good deal of our time at the airport :shock:
 
... I fear that the redevlopment will just have us walking around a depratment store for a good deal of our time at the airport :shock:
Sort of like the first 300 metres or so after passing emigration at MEL T2 ... :evil:
 
I'm not sure why people are so offended by the "department stores" in the terminals? They subsidise the landing fees which contribute to the ticket price. So they make your ticket cheaper. Sure, it's a bit tedious if you fly frequently to have to trawl past them, but you dont stop and look so does it matter if it's a grey corridor or a row of Absolut? And for those of us who fly in, go straight to a meeting, straight back to the airport, but like to bring a small "pressie" back for family members great and small awaiting your return, it's easier to pick somethingup at the airport than make a specific trip into town.

I'm sure I also saw a proposal the other day for an elevated roadway leading out from around the midpoint of the current roadway and connecting directly to the freeway, reducing the numbers of cars that have to go all the way along the upper tier. That current proposal is a bit weird in that QF would surely want JQ at their end of the airport, not the opposite. I'm sure I'd seen another plan that extends the "QF terminal" beyond the current extension (gates 21+) out to the other side where I believe there are some freight terminals still.
 
I'm not sure why people are so offended by the "department stores" in the terminals? They subsidise the landing fees which contribute to the ticket price. So they make your ticket cheaper. Sure, it's a bit tedious if you fly frequently to have to trawl past them, but you dont stop and look so does it matter if it's a grey corridor or a row of Absolut? And for those of us who fly in, go straight to a meeting, straight back to the airport, but like to bring a small "pressie" back for family members great and small awaiting your return, it's easier to pick somethingup at the airport than make a specific trip into town.

My theory is that people's "offence" at these department stores is derived from a lack of balance between wanting to shop, and just wanting to fly. Let me use a non-flying example from my local shopping centre to illustrate the point.

In one area of my local centre, there is a 100m long mall known as the Fashion Mall. This mall connects the sole method of access between the original centre, and a major expansion to the centre's east which includes department stores, more major retailers, dining options and access to the adjacent transport hub.

Along the centre line of this mall, there are three casual mall leasing spaces, both with shelving and display cases of different sizes, configurations and the amount of space they use. Some of these stalls jut out into the mall more than others, restricting the area for free movement. This is further exacerbated when there are significant numbers of customers browsing or buying from these retailers.

Normally this isn't too much of a problem during non-peak periods. However when the centre reaches peak periods, this mall causes customer frustration and annoyance. People can't move freely through the space in a normal period of time, customers find it difficult to enter and exit stores along the mall, and people generally feel uncomfortable stuck in large, slow moving crowds. And of course because this is the only logical path available to traverse between the two areas, there's no way to get around this frustration.

Now let's translate that back to the airport experience. More often than not in the airport we are stuck on these same single paths as we move from counter to gate. There's no real way around the barriers and frustrations (ie. duty free concessions) put in our way. Sure, while the crowds might not be there; the shelves, promotional stands, display staff are crowds and barriers to movement by proxy.

While there are some who don't mind a bit of a browse or are looking for a specific product, the rest of us see these as barriers to movement that keep us from our end goal - either getting extra lounge time, or actually making it to the gate before the doors close.

So the better question is why, like the shopping centre, do airports deliberately allocate space and allow concession owners to lay their stores out in such a way that doesn't balance these needs. This stems from the problem of failing to balance the needs of all their customers, hence why people especially frequent flyers become annoyed at these barriers to achieving intended goal.
 
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