JQ launches CNS DPS, OOL PER and MEL WEL

Status
Not open for further replies.

markis10

Veteran Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2004
Messages
30,449
Points
10
As per Ozbargain

New Jetstar Routes.- Cairns to Bali $99, Melbourne to Wellington $99, Gold Coast to Perth $119


Flights commence 29 March 2015, subject to government and regulatory approval.


Cairns Bali (Denpasar) 22 Apr - 24 Jun 2015
Cairns Bali (Denpasar) 22 Jul - 16 Sep 2015


Melbourne (Tullamarine) Wellington 22 Apr - 24 Jun 2015
Melbourne (Tullamarine) Wellington 22 Jul - 16 Sep 2015


Gold Coast Perth 22 Apr - 24 Jun 2015
Gold Coast Perth 22 Jul - 16 Sep 2015

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/175114
 

Cool Cat Phil

Established Member
Joined
May 2, 2013
Messages
1,957
Solutions
1
Points
475
Qantas
Platinum
Virgin
Red
Worth noting that PER > OOL was only dropped by JQ 18 months ago only to be reintroduced.

JQ really want to own/pretty much dominate most of the AUS > DPS traffic, with ADL & BNE being introduced in the last 12 months or so & now CNS being added to the route network.

While the new JQ MEL > WEL service is great for competition, & a great connection between two very hip n happening cities, the flight timings are at very unsociable hours, particularly departing MEL. :(

But at $99 each way that's a steal!
 
Last edited:

eastwest101

Established Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2010
Messages
3,291
Points
720
Qantas
Gold
Virgin
Gold
Worth noting that PER > OOL was only dropped by JQ 18 months ago only to be reintroduced.

JQ really want to own/pretty much dominate most of the AUS > DPS traffic, with ADL & BNE being introduced in the last 12 months or so & now CNS being added to the route network.

While the new JQ MEL > WEL service is great for competition, & a great connection between two very hip n happening cities, the flight timings are at very unsociable hours, particularly departing MEL. :(

But at $99 each way that's a steal!

Certainly looks like higher aircraft utilization from JQ for their A320s.

If JQ want to "own" the Bali market then they are welcome to it - a sinking AUD and decreasing discretionary spending from Australian based tourists, rubbish low yields and even cheaper and lower cost competitors with tonnes of capacity up the whazoo, sounds like a great way to lose money hand over fist to me. And what happens once everyone has been to Bali and doesn't want to go again? I must be the only person in Australia whom hasn't been there yet. :shock:

The timing of the DPS-CNS flights in both directions almost seems designed to prevent booking hotels.

The MEL-WEL service is obviously designed to hurt NZ's high yields but with those timings I can't see them worrying too much about JQ.

Presumably there must be some demand for the OOL-PER market for them to return to it after giving up 18 months ago.
 

Cool Cat Phil

Established Member
Joined
May 2, 2013
Messages
1,957
Solutions
1
Points
475
Qantas
Platinum
Virgin
Red
Certainly looks like higher aircraft utilization from JQ for their A320s.

If JQ want to "own" the Bali market then they are welcome to it - a sinking AUD and decreasing discretionary spending from Australian based tourists, rubbish low yields and even cheaper and lower cost competitors with tonnes of capacity up the whazoo, sounds like a great way to lose money hand over fist to me. And what happens once everyone has been to Bali and doesn't want to go again? I must be the only person in Australia whom hasn't been there yet. :shock:

The timing of the DPS-CNS flights in both directions almost seems designed to prevent booking hotels.

The MEL-WEL service is obviously designed to hurt NZ's high yields but with those timings I can't see them worrying too much about JQ.

Presumably there must be some demand for the OOL-PER market for them to return to it after giving up 18 months ago.

Good commentary & observations, which I generally agree with particularly the falling AUD.


I too haven't been to Bali, so many other exciting places on the bucket list before Bali.

No doubt one day I will visit .

I wonder if SYD will be next to offer a direct JQ service to WEL?
 

dajop

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 1, 2002
Messages
13,034
Solutions
3
Points
1,345
Good commentary & observations, which I generally agree with particularly the falling AUD.


I too haven't been to Bali, so many other exciting places on the bucket list before Bali.?

The commentary around AUD only applies to making USD denominated hotel bookings in Bali, and general perceptions around the falling AUD. In reality, if booking in AUD (as many do) or if booking in IDR it is not that relevant as the AUD is still very strong against the IDR, and has barely moved against it this year.

As for the Bali comments many people don't have it on their bucket list, but it is still an OK, quite relaxing place to visit. Until I went there three years ago I was definitely in the avoid Bali camp - but as long as you avoid Kuta area it really is quite a pleasant place to visit with many reasonably priced and quite nice places to stay for a break. (Although with a proviso I have only visited after moving to Singapore , which is of course only 2.5hrs away and never from Aust. and each time I've been there I've seen people waiting for flights back to Australia and been very happy that I was in a very different crowd heading in the other direction!)
 

Cool Cat Phil

Established Member
Joined
May 2, 2013
Messages
1,957
Solutions
1
Points
475
Qantas
Platinum
Virgin
Red
The commentary around AUD only applies to making USD denominated hotel bookings in Bali, and general perceptions around the falling AUD. In reality, if booking in AUD (as many do) or if booking in IDR it is not that relevant as the AUD is still very strong against the IDR, and has barely moved against it this year.

As for the Bali comments many people don't have it on their bucket list, but it is still an OK, quite relaxing place to visit. Until I went there three years ago I was definitely in the avoid Bali camp - but as long as you avoid Kuta area it really is quite a pleasant place to visit with many reasonably priced and quite nice places to stay for a break. (Although with a proviso I have only visited after moving to Singapore , which is of course only 2.5hrs away and never from Aust. and each time I've been there I've seen people waiting for flights back to Australia and been very happy that I was in a very different crowd heading in the other direction!)

I appreciate your comments about Bali.

Sounds like one needs to explore the island Outside of the main tourist traps to obtain a better feel for the place.

I know here in MEL, Bali is a very popular overseas destination, not a week won't go by where I would overhear a conversation about the place from either someone going to or coming from Bali.
 

Limewood

Established Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Messages
4,493
Points
720
The direct flight times CNS/DPS/CNS are ridiculous, wonder what scatter brain came up with those, at least its under 5 hours in the sardine tin.
 
We've Increased Our Flying to 30 Destinations Across Australia. Book With Us Today. Change Your Flight, Fee-Free and As Often As You Like for Travel up to 30 Apr 22*. Contactless Check-in. Special Safety Protocols. New Cleaning Practices. Online Check-in.

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

cambriamarsh

Active Member
Joined
Apr 25, 2011
Messages
767
Points
300
Qantas
LT Silver
Virgin
Red
Maybe MEL WLG is designed to feed off QF10 into MEL to help build QFi, as well as others. MEL already has a red eye to AKL and perhaps that is working well for JQ.
 
Last edited:

clifford

Established Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2004
Messages
2,068
Points
420
Seems to me that people who haven't been to Bali shouldn't try and criticize it. For the record, I've been many times (going again in March) but I don't really like it. Just an interesting place to transit.

I can't imagine how CNS-DPS could ever turn a profit. No one in CNS would want to go and the people in DPS couldn't afford it. Maybe with the Pacific Peso plummeting (and the Reserve Bank cheering it on) they could afford it. At this rate we'll be having Parity Parties (and I'm not a Kiwi), but the good thing about that is that it will eff the NZ economy.
 

whatmeworry

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 22, 2007
Messages
5,867
Points
0
Did dummy booking for MEL-WLG , added a bundle and no mention of points or SC's on that page or the next.
 

aikman

Active Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2009
Messages
527
Solutions
1
Points
305
The CNS-DPS flight times could work well for cheap self connections to Asia and beyond.
 

whatmeworry

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 22, 2007
Messages
5,867
Points
0
I noticed that as well.

And the price of the plus bundle is different on the different sectors...... What the?

On International routes you sometimes get different pricing for plus bundles for some reason. Perhaps to reflect cheaper prices in other countries?
 

eastwest101

Established Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2010
Messages
3,291
Points
720
Qantas
Gold
Virgin
Gold
The CNS-DPS flight times could work well for cheap self connections to Asia and beyond.

True - seems the arrival times of early Friday, Sat and Sunday mornings could put you onto connecting flights with MH, SQ or possibly QR. Some other posters have mentioned that DPS could be a pretty horrible airport to transit in, plus the fact that separate bookings means that if your cheap flight from Australia to DPS is cancelled or delayed significantly then you will have completely lost/blown your onwards flights bookings. So - yes risky - but with some of the cheap J class flights ex-DPS some may find there are bargains to be had with onwards connections on GA, MH, SQ, QR, KE, KLM ?

But for CNS folk may be just easier and only a bit more expensive to fly CX to HKG or MI to SIN and connect onwards from there.
 

ksthommo

Active Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2004
Messages
807
Points
320
Qantas
Gold
Virgin
Gold
Booked on the CNS/DPS flights August/September. Hoping Jetstar doesn't can the flights before then.
Agree, get out of Kuta and you will see a different world. Recommend Yogyakarta/Mt Merapi/Borobudur/Prambanan for a trip
out of Bali.
 

ozbeachbabe

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2009
Messages
6,461
Points
855
True - seems the arrival times of early Friday, Sat and Sunday mornings could put you onto connecting flights with MH, SQ or possibly QR. Some other posters have mentioned that DPS could be a pretty horrible airport to transit in, plus the fact that separate bookings means that if your cheap flight from Australia to DPS is cancelled or delayed significantly then you will have completely lost/blown your onwards flights bookings. So - yes risky - but with some of the cheap J class flights ex-DPS some may find there are bargains to be had with onwards connections on GA, MH, SQ, QR, KE, KLM ?

But for CNS folk may be just easier and only a bit more expensive to fly CX to HKG or MI to SIN and connect onwards from there.

If you're doing the separate booking thing I think it's wise to stopover in Bali for a couple of nights so you've got a safety buffer there. Why have the stress of whether JQ are going to schedule change or not when you can just have a relaxing night or two in Bali before your onward flights booked separately.

Although JQ will check bags through to other carriers if they have an interline agreement I wouldn't want to be in the position where I was going to mis-connect with another airline if the JQ flight CNS/DPS was late.
 

eastwest101

Established Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2010
Messages
3,291
Points
720
Qantas
Gold
Virgin
Gold
If you're doing the separate booking thing I think it's wise to stopover in Bali for a couple of nights so you've got a safety buffer there. Why have the stress of whether JQ are going to schedule change or not when you can just have a relaxing night or two in Bali before your onward flights booked separately.

I agree completely with you OBB - once you start to look into the economics of separate bookings with the danger of late or rescheduled JQ flights and subsequent misconnections, sometimes when you add it all up (the costs of your "safety margin" such as accommodation, food, transfers etc, hassle of customs and immigration at DPS never being able to get a successful claim from travel insurance for separate bookings) then the onwards fare from DPS has to be unbelievably good value to make it worthwhile.

Or alternately, you are really planning on stopping in Bali anyway, in which case its worthwhile considering as there are a lot of different connections and options ex-DPS which don't exist in any Australian airports.
 

Steelo

Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2013
Messages
196
Points
215
Economics are more than a straight dollar costing. There are three factors I take into account when booking tickets out of Bali; time; cost; and comfort. If it is business trip and time is of the essence, then it may not work. But the cost and comfort of flying J out of Bali cannot be matched and time is something most of us have some control over. The added bonus is that one way J flights back to Australia from many asian ports are also affordable.
We could never afford to travel J internationally if we flew directly out of Australia - travel out of Bali makes it all possible.
 

ozbeachbabe

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2009
Messages
6,461
Points
855
I don't know whether an OOL/PER flight is going to be viable because when you need to take on extra fuel for headwinds, 177 pax on an A320 isn't going to cut it. When they had to cap the BNE/PER flight because of weight restrictions is was easier to accommodate affected pax on QF or VA non-stop flights however OOL will prove more of a challenge.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top