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Jetstar pilots to earn $100,000 less

Discussion in 'Qantas Frequent Flyer Program' started by NM, Feb 16, 2006.

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  1. NM

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    Could this lead to some inductrial problems in the not too distant future:

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  2. markis10

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    I wonder how that will affect the quality of the air crew they hire given the market, not sure I want to fly an airline that is not prepared to get the best possible staff on the market, SQ's experience with Silk Air bothers me.
     


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    That was one of the major reasons for JQ's beginning (i thought anyway). Bring down costs across the board and reduce wages.
     
  4. MetroAir

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    Supply and demand!!

    Perhaps some pilots should consider becoming Doctors??
     
  5. Yada Yada

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    Come on... sing along with Magda: "let's fly Deathstar!"

    Not. :p
     


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    The industry is actually suffering from a falling number in pilots. As a lot of the older flock retire there are less and less to replace them.
     
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    Off Topic Comment ;)

    ... speaking of Wide Bodies ... :wink:
     
  8. MetroAir

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    Then it will come down to supply and demand, DeathStar won't attract pilots and they will have to pay more.
     
  9. Guest

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    Watch them phase out pilots entirely... it's either take it or leave it and get replaced by computers i predict with in 7 years
     
  10. markis10

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    Wont ever happen in Sydney, the ILS will never be full autoland thanks to the geography and the odd container park interferring with the signal!
     
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    On that note, in the late ninety's a collegue of mine was priviliged enough to watch an 'auto-land' from the cockpit of a 763 on the 3rd runway at SYD. :mrgreen:
     
  12. N860CR

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    The pilots will always be there, the job is just changing. A plane can fly a preset course and auto-land (however it needs someone to tell it what to do) but they'll never be able to taxi themselves, communicate with ATC (it's not always just readback and follow instructions) and, most importantly, deal with abnormal situations.

    Obviously, these days an aircraft only needs 2 pilots (or for smaller RPT aircraft just one) but there will always be highly trained, skilled and experienced crews in control - not just a computer.
     
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    Never say never. The military can do it with UAV's, so its technically possible. But is it feasible? Not now, but who know what is feasible in 5, 10, 20 years time??
     
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    it's more about the travelling public's perceptions. it will take along time to change people's view that flying without human intervention would be an idea worth considering.
     
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    Perish the thought. :shock:
     
  16. NM

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    Who mentioned "without human intervention"? The military UAVs are flown by ground-based "pilots". With the increasing reliance on the computer systems, and the resulting reduction in workload on the flight deck, we have already seen the demise of rolls such as the flight engineer.

    I am not saying that aircraft will be pilotless, but I expect to see a continued increase in the automation, resulting in a reduction in the workload on the flight deck. This may also mean the skills required to operate the aircraft are less specialised, meaning that lesser trainined and experienced people can undertake the task at a lower rate of pay.

    Such changes, if they happen, will be gradual. With the cockpit doors now firmly locked, perhaps the passengers will not even realise the person sitting up front is a snotty-nosed, spotty-faced 17yo whose sole flight experience comes from hours infront of his X-Box 470, rather than the grey-haired, wrinkle-faced 60yo who thinks an x-box is where latex protective products are stored.
     
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    Mainline pilots to fight plan for Jetstar expansion

    A related article in the Australia 27 Feb. See http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18281412%255E2702,00.html

     
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