'Indian Pacific' COVID-19 restrictions

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This afternoon (Wednesday 26 May 2021) the 'Indian Pacific' train arrived Sydney a little less than two hours late, as inbound at Cook, SA on the Nullabor (famous saying 'if you're crook come to Cook'), there was a six hour delay as a passenger had to be airlifted by the RFDS. Due to this once major crew change station being 'unattended' (i.e. no station staff), the train staff could not leave the passenger to fend for themselves.

Apparently early this afternoon Victorian-domiciled passengers who were checking in were told 'they could not travel', but go to the cafe at Central Station and have a drink (presumably on Journey Beyond, the rail operator) where they were able to freely mingle with non Victorians (albeit there may have been 'social distancing with the tables/chairs).

About an hour before the train's more than 90 minute late departure at 1645 this afternoon - unusual, because the frequent peak period trains normally see the 'IP' held in Sydney until 1900 if it can't depart close to the 1500 hours it's meant to leave Sydney Central - Victorians were informed that they could travel.

So tonight they can dine in the dining car with others, but on arrival in Adelaide if alighting need to isolate until they receive a COVID-19 'all clear' from the test if from Greater Melbourne. However Perth-bound passengers won't be allowed to leave the train (scheduled to stop at the Parklands isolated terminal for more then six hours, as patrons are normally taken by road coach to dine in Hahndorf, with the train departing if on time at 2140 CST for Perth) and on arrival at East Perth all Victorians (not just Melburnians) must isolate until test results come through.

Given QF's FF scheme offers journeys on this long distance tourist train (expensive in points, and some have said to me 'not good value'), it's important that those booked from the southern state know about these possible restrictions.

If Melbourne or Victoria goes into lockdown tomorrow, I'd expect this JB rail operator would immediately ban Victorians from its three long distance trains, and probably cancel the twice weekly 'The Overland' Adelaide - Melbourne despite many passengers being from SA not Victoria.
 
Given that the SA Government has suddenly banned Melburnians from entering SA, the 'Indian Pacific' tonight is making a special stop at Mt Victoria in the Blue Mountains to offload any of its passengers who hail from Greater Melbourne.

Yet they've already been mingling with others in the dining car for the dinner meal sittings.

The equivalent air examples were at one recent stage when flights had to turn around midair IIRC.

Just absolute madness and a huge overreaction from the SA government.

This costs jobs or lower earnings in small businesses (plus sectors like aviation), but government bureaucrats don't ever mention that.
 
Given that the SA Government has suddenly banned Melburnians from entering SA, the 'Indian Pacific' tonight is making a special stop at Mt Victoria in the Blue Mountains to offload any of its passengers who hail from Greater Melbourne.
For some reason, offloading Victorians at Mt Victoria seems appropriate.
 
How do they prove you hail from Victoria? It's a train. I lived in QLD for 3 years but still had a Victorian ID/Licence.
 
How do they prove you hail from Victoria? It's a train. I lived in QLD for 3 years but still had a Victorian ID/Licence.

Like many long distance transport operators these days, 'they' would simply look at your booking record as IIRC it includes your address, just as QF, VA or any other major airline know where we live. It is based on what you tell Journey Beyond so agree, not 100 per cent foolproof.

You can book by phone which "may" exclude your home address.
 
How do they prove you hail from Victoria? It's a train. I lived in QLD for 3 years but still had a Victorian ID/Licence.
Given the legislated penalties for not declaring truthfully, I don't think the train journey is worthwhile. I daresay Journeys Beyond would look after disrupted passengers with another ticket or a substantial discount for another departure.
 
Given the legislated penalties for not declaring truthfully, I don't think the train journey is worthwhile. I daresay Journeys Beyond would look after disrupted passengers with another ticket or a substantial discount for another departure.

I am told it offers a travel credit. The company unfairly avoids refunds, so surprising that ACCC hasn't acted against it. QF was made to change its policy.
 
I am told it offers a travel credit. The company unfairly avoids refunds, so surprising that ACCC hasn't acted against it. QF was made to change its policy.

It all depends what the contract says! The ACCC can take action where the contracts specifically say you are entitled to a refund. For contracts that don’t provide for a refund, but may offer a voucher or credit, it will depend on the circumstances, but there’s not necessarily an ‘automatic right’ to a refund in covid circumstances.
 
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This morning, the 'IP' had picked up time but the off train excursion in 'the Hill' was cancelled. Silly and not fair on once-in-a-lifetime passengers, because the train normally spends more than six hours in Adelaide from mid afternoon on a Thursday. The train departed Broken Hill a few minutes early.

Be aware that if there's unpunctuality, Journey Beyond does this to 'recover time'.
 
There's not much other choice.

I disagree, as the six hours in Adelaide could be curtailed to 3.5, allowing sufficient time to visit Hahndorf, Adelaide Hills by hired road coaches for the off train evening meal.

There's also padding in the schedule between Adelaide and Perth, and similarly in the eastbound direction.
 
I disagree, as the six hours in Adelaide could be curtailed to 3.5, allowing sufficient time to visit Hahndorf, Adelaide Hills by hired road coaches for the off train evening meal.

There's also padding in the schedule between Adelaide and Perth, and similarly in the eastbound direction.
With respect, unless you are a Train Controller at ARTC Adelaide you have no idea as to how much padding is in the schedule to be used on any given day heading westbound.
 
I disagree, as the six hours in Adelaide could be curtailed to 3.5, allowing sufficient time to visit Hahndorf, Adelaide Hills by hired road coaches for the off train evening meal.

There's also padding in the schedule between Adelaide and Perth, and similarly in the eastbound direction.

For the most part, there is a single track for large distances of the journey between Adelaide and Perth. Trains really need to be in the right spots at the right time so they can pass each other.
 
For the most part, there is a single track for large distances of the journey between Adelaide and Perth. Trains really need to be in the right spots at the right time so they can pass each other.

Ideally they do, but controllers can decide which train receives priority, and crossing loops are reasonably close together: not as if the train travels 100km before it arrives at the next loop.

Priority may not always accord with the ARTC published timetables. On top of that, there can be locations where the 'IP's timetabled stops can be reduced if need be, especially between Port Augusta and West Kalgoorlie. Cook (especially westbound) is one example. Rawlinna (where westbound passengers have dinner served at trestle tables, rather than in the dining car, and eastbound breakfast) is another.
 
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Data point for the Ghan: 32 northbound Vic-resident pax were offloaded at Marla in far north SA today and are being bussed back to Adelaide. Approx 20 south bound Vic pax were offloaded in Alice Springs and are in hotel quarantine pending the results of covid tests.

 
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