How Australia's airports are failing flyers

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And not to brag, but I was quoted heavily in this article by the journalist, managing to even grind my axe on the Hawke/Keating privatisation failures, and score AFF a shout-out and link from the article to boot.


How Australia's airports are failing flyers
A damning watchdog report says not a single facility can even be rated as "good." Travelers seem to agree

By Monica Attard, for CNN 6 May, 2013
Six of Australia’s 22 airports might be ranked in the world’s top 100 but according to the peak Australian consumer and competition watchdog, none can be rated as “good”.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) has delivered a damning report card that will either ring true or shock the tens of million of people who transit through the country's airports every year.

The report is based on the assessments of airlines, passengers and border security agencies.
 
It's certainly an interesting article. Although I do think most of us here on AFF are very isolated from the average airport experience that most travelers would have.
A perfect example is the cost of internet access, well given most of us here have QP / J / F lounge access, internet costs are non-existent. Likewise the cost of getting something to eat and drink.

IMHO, we are seeing investment in airports. It certainly feels like most airports AU airports which I have been through recently have been receiving upgrades in recent years (with the biggest by far being CBR airport), and there is only so much investment in rec activities which airports can make without needing to then make them expensive to recover the costs of that investment.

I guess the real bugbear is the cost of food and drink at airports. There is no reason (apart from because they can) why a can of coke should be double the price of the supermarket 500 meters down the road.
 
Also just to add on, unlike just about every AU airport, SIN is very much so a hub. Whilst I don't have exact figures, it's easy to imagine that most people who fly to SYD has the intention of actually staying in SYD. Where as for places like SIN, it would be interesting to know how many people fly to SIN without any intention of actually staying in SIN beyond the few hours between connecting flights.
 
I do wish that there were travelators everywhere. And less chinese tourists. But overall i find SYD fine.

What do people think should be improved?
 
My main gripes with some Australian airports are threefold (in no particular order):

1. At MEL, extortionate parking rates, and a very poor long term car park service (though that info is several years old, as I swore off the LTP due to cough service). This may also apply to some other airports in Oz, but I would not know.

2. At any international port, I detest seeing huge immigration and/or security lines with just a few officers processing them, with lots of unattended desks. It's not as if they don't know what aircraft are due to land when (usually). And I realise this may be beyond the airport's control, but it still bugs me.

3. Any airport that has terminals separated by long (non-walkable) distances that charges pax (ignoring some airlines' complimentary transfer facilities) to move between them is an automatic fail for me. SYD, BNE, PER come to mind (I think they fall into that category).
 
1. At MEL, extortionate parking rates, and a very poor long term car park service (though that info is several years old, as I swore off the LTP due to cough service). This may also apply to some other airports in Oz, but I would not know.

What were the service issues? (I park, catch a bus and do the reverse when I get back!)

Also worth keeping an eye on MEL special offers. Prebooking at the moment can get you a 25% discount (Special Offers : Melbourne Airport)

3. Any airport that has terminals separated by long (non-walkable) distances that charges pax (ignoring some airlines' complimentary transfer facilities) to move between them is an automatic fail for me. SYD, BNE, PER come to mind (I think they fall into that category).

I don't think PER charges for the interterminal bus any more.
 
What were the service issues? (I park, catch a bus and do the reverse when I get back!)

Also worth keeping an eye on MEL special offers. Prebooking at the moment can get you a 25% discount (Special Offers : Melbourne Airport)



I don't think PER charges for the interterminal bus any more.

Service issues, refer this thread.

I have parked a couple of times in the 'business' carpark opposite T1 on a special weekend deal, but not since 'abandoning' the airport carparks (for the record after one try (and fail) at Andrew's I have used what is now called Ace Airport Parking (was Jetport Self-Park) maybe a dozen or more times, with only a couple of small glitches.

That is a plus for PER if they no longer charge for IT bus.
 
Well at least there is some upgrading work finally being done on Perth airport, long way to go though...
 
What bugs me about airports - and it's airports everywhere, with Australian examples no better or worse than elsewhere - is the "friction" imposed between airliner and home.

You know what I mean. It's the hour or so between walking out the door and getting onto the plane. Sometimes it's three hours, sometimes it's less than an hour, but it's packed with interactions of various sorts, queues, delays, transactions and expenses.

Even for an elite flyer with a priority checkin and lounge access, it's far from smooth progress. The same credentials and information have to be checked several times by various agencies. Boarding passes, government ID, airline loyalty cards, baggage tags, passports; if it was a website needing all this information to be repeatedly re-entered, nobody would use it!

Then there's the expense. Admittedly less for a Gold or Platinum flyer using free wifi in the lounge while sipping a free cappuccino and reading a free newspaper, but just how "free" is all that comfort? Typically it takes thousands of dollars to get to that level where the goodies are complimentary. Again, if the lounge lizards had to pay $200 for each lounge entry, they wouldn't. They would use the cafes outside.

But who likes airport dining? Typically the food is bland or poor quality, the prices are inflated and the service spotty. Where there are limited food and drink options available, the operators take every opportunity to gouge their captive audiences. And that goes for just about every commercial service offered, from parking to paperbacks. Prices ALL have a surcharge of some sort. If all this stuff was available on websites - and it is - then people would shop on websites.

Apart from parking and sandwiches, I guess. You can bring your own snacks, so long as you don't smuggle juice through security, but you are stuck with the transport options allowed or controlled by the airport. Long gone are the days at Canberra airport where you could park for free outside the terminal door. Even collecting an arriving passenger in your own car is deliberately made difficult, with police chasing private cars away from the arrivals level, and the free ten minute parking zone is a six minute walk from the baggage carousels. Sydney airport offers train service to and from the terminals, but the ticket prices are well above those for suburban stations either side on the same line.

And don't get me started on the security checks. The best I can say is that Australia makes it a less painful process than the USA.

And why is there all this nonsense anyway? Board a ferryboat or an interstate bus, and nobody demands you take everything out of your pockets and send your backpack through a scanner. If a terrorist wants a crowd of hundreds of people, they are readily found in shopping malls, cinemas, parks. Or in the long queues for check in and security before anybody official has even thought about checking for weapons.

As a frequent flyer, I like flying. I don't like everything that comes before and after my flight, when I feel like an impersonal world with a plastic smile is grabbing everything they can get out of my wallet while also stealing my time in a series of industrially carpet-tiled spaces.

Do I really want to spend a significant part of my life in such uncomfortable and expensive places?
 
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Do I really want to spend a significant part of my life in such uncomfortable and expensive places?
Assuming that question is rhetorical, my response is "hence the lounges".

I find I do as much as possible to mitigate the time spent betwixt my front door and that of the lounge.
 
Then there's the expense. Admittedly less for a Gold or Platinum flyer using free wifi in the lounge while sipping a free cappuccino and reading a free newspaper, but just how "free" is all that comfort? Typically it takes thousands of dollars to get to that level where the goodies are complimentary. Again, if the lounge lizards had to pay $200 for each lounge entry, they wouldn't. They would use the cafes outside.

IMHO It's free enough... If you fly enough to start making your way up the ladder, then whilst yes the flights have cost you money, it's only because of the foresight you had to sign up to FF program which is now entitling you to this free stuff. Had you done that level of flying without signing up to the airlines FF program, it would have cost you exactly the same number of $$$, but without the free coffee and newspaper in the lounge before hand.



and the free ten minute parking zone is a six minute walk from the baggage carousels.

Yes this annoys me a lot. I have yet to see someone successfully utilize the 10 minute pickup. Personally I don't see the risk of kerb side pickup at the airport as being any more of a risk that the local suburban shopping center allowing kerb side pickup.
 
Assuming that question is rhetorical, my response is "hence the lounges".

I find I do as much as possible to mitigate the time spent betwixt my front door and that of the lounge.
Not a rhetorical question. Lounges all over the world are much the same. Comfortable enough for the body, but the sameness and the falsity grates after a while. Not at home in any of these places. Ryan Bingham loves them, but I find that the places I truly love are those where I share the space with somebody I love. It could be anywhere, but a good companion makes everything else irrelevant.

Unless I'm travelling with somebody, once I've had enough "me time" - and I do like a certain amount of solitude - even the comfiest lounge is unsettling. A place to pass through rather than live.
 
IMHO It's free enough... If you fly enough to start making your way up the ladder, then whilst yes the flights have cost you money, it's only because of the foresight you had to sign up to FF program which is now entitling you to this free stuff. Had you done that level of flying without signing up to the airlines FF program, it would have cost you exactly the same number of $$$, but without the free coffee and newspaper in the lounge before hand.
Very true, but for some of us, the flying is the hobby and the little plastic cards are the true reward. It's an expensive business, whichever way you look at it.

And I do not love all the interaction and cr*ap that goes on, the hassling with the taxidriver, the showing of documents, the pulling out of laptops and/or ipads. What a load of bullsh*it it all is.

Pardon my Fr*ench.
 
And not to brag, but I was quoted heavily in this article by the journalist, managing to even grind my axe on the Hawke/Keating privatisation failures, and score AFF a shout-out and link from the article to boot.

If you're talking privatisation of airports then it was done by Howard, Therefore according to the one eyed lovers of all things Liberal it must've been a success.
 
If you're talking privatisation of airports then it was done by Howard, Therefore according to the one eyed lovers of all things Liberal it must've been a success.
I'm getting a little weary of one-eyed supporters of *anything*. Too much clinging to objects or concepts. Too much setting limits to thought and imagination.

Give me people who don't see themselves quite so bound up and chained to any one thing. I can learn from such people.

The others, they are just claiming that their prison cell is better than the rest.
 
Service issues, refer this thread.

I have parked a couple of times in the 'business' carpark opposite T1 on a special weekend deal, but not since 'abandoning' the airport carparks (for the record after one try (and fail) at Andrew's I have used what is now called Ace Airport Parking (was Jetport Self-Park) maybe a dozen or more times, with only a couple of small glitches.

That is a plus for PER if they no longer charge for IT bus.
Highly recommend Busy Beaver in MEL (it's a subsidiary of Andrew's though). Join their corporate program get 15% off rack rates and 20% off after 5 stays. Get a free car wash on sign up and after every 5th park I think.

Rates are a hell of a lot better than MEL LTP, but it's around 7km from the airport. I've never waited more than 3-4 minutes leaving the depot, and upon arrival pickup from the bus area has never been more than 5-10 minutes (usually quicker as they have several busses that pretty much keep doing the rounds). They've gotten to know me pretty well there now, and often walk out when I get back and hand me my keys. Great service!
 
And why is there all this nonsense anyway? Board a ferryboat or an interstate bus, and nobody demands you take everything out of your pockets and send your backpack through a scanner. If a terrorist wants a crowd of hundreds of people, they are readily found in shopping malls, cinemas, parks. Or in the long queues for check in and security before anybody official has even thought about checking for weapons.

The thing is they want crowds of thousands not hundreds. Those security checks are suppose to deal this that situation.
 
The thing is they want crowds of thousands not hundreds. Those security checks are suppose to deal this that situation.
I don't think people who blow themselves up are thinking rationally to begin with, nor do I think they have much in the way of strategy.

I think that we have security theatre so people can see something happening.
 
When I pick up husband at CBR I pick him up at the departures drop off. I time it so he should be walking out the door as I drive up (using Flight Track on my iPhone). I've been told to move along a couple of times by security but ironically both times he was already in the car with me and we were just talking about where we were going next, so I just said "yes sir" and drove off. Still, I hate to be made to feel like a criminal just to park for a couple of minutes to pick someone up. The ten minute area is miles away and if the plane is delayed what do you do then?
 
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