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Parroting everything put in front of one , doesn’t make one a journalist.
I have not met one person who has denied that climate change exists. Ergo, I have not met any deniers.
For those who have considered other causes to climate change other than what Mother Nature provides, and which include the impacts of man, the current rush to do everything carbon related and not look to other causes as well is extremely frustrating and will not produce any result.
And until I see extreme groups and even less extreme groups who actually modify their lifestyle according to their own principles - no mobile, no air conditioning, no flights, no computers, and so on, well, I don’t listen anymore to those who are just angry shouty people whatever their flavour.
Seriously, a climate change conference in Davos that required helicopters to bring people in?
OK - I'll try to explain what hysteria really looks like. I googled "SBS news hottest day ever" and could only find this :-
It's official: Tuesday was 'Australia's hottest day on record'
Preliminary results show Tuesday was Australia's hottest day on record.www.sbs.com.au
and
Australia breaks hottest day record – just a day after the previous record
The average maximum temperature of 41.9C across the nation on Wednesday was one degree hotter than Tuesday's record.www.sbs.com.au
I could not find any reference to the claim that they described it as the hottest day EVER. As we are technically in an Ice Age right now it seems unlikely that it has NEVER been warmer, but as that has been going for a couple of million years now it pre-dates human life.
But instead of expressing concern that we are breaking temperature records regularly these days, the deniers fixate on the term "EVER" and pretend like that is the issue. It is quite pathetic, isn't it?
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Oh but you have, Pushka. They are some of your buddies on AFF, who have over the years said :-
- Global Warming is a myth - the world is actually cooling
- The polar ice-caps are not shrinking - they are getting bigger
- The pacific islands under threat of sea rises are rising themselves so nothing to see there
- Yada Yada
When one claim is shown to be a nonsense they just move on to another, or focus on the fringe elements and more alarming claims as if that somehow invalidates the whole debate.
So humour me - what is the major cause of the current climate change if not primarily the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere?
Seriously - from the forum that promotes and gleefully reports on status runs.
I do modify my behavior, but no one is saying we all have to live in a cave. It is incumbent on all of us to take a part in reducing the world's carbon footprint, whether you care to is your own choice.
I have always said climate change.Oh but you have, Pushka. They are some of your buddies on AFF, who have over the years said :-
- Global Warming is a myth - the world is actually cooling
- The polar ice-caps are not shrinking - they are getting bigger
- The pacific islands under threat of sea rises are rising themselves so nothing to see there
- Yada Yada
When one claim is shown to be a nonsense they just move on to another, or focus on the fringe elements and more alarming claims as if that somehow invalidates the whole debate.
So humour me - what is the major cause of the current climate change if not primarily the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere?
Seriously - from the forum that promotes and gleefully reports on status runs.
I do modify my behaviour, but no one is saying we all have to live in a cave. It is incumbent on all of us to take a part in reducing the world's carbon footprint, whether you care to is your own choice.
I have always said climate change.
As you rightly reported this Forum is about flying. And status runs. I have always maintained that climate change is a complex issue that will not be addressed by the complete focus by some on carbon. Hence I show no hypocrisy should I fly. Those however who blame carbon for everything climate change should not fly. That is hypocrisy.
Do you fly?
Yes. Which is why I’m not onboard with the simplistic carbon model and climate change.Yes I fly. Your point is ......????
Oh - I see. So because breathing turns oxygen into CO2 I also shouldn't breathe?
Simplistic arguments are always the most problematic, aren't they?
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Yes. Which is why I’m not onboard with the simplistic carbon model and climate change.
And you are not willing to stop flying even though in your mind you believe it is one of the major contributors to climate change.But you are not willing to provide an alternative explanation - just your belief that something else is causing it?