Has anyone had success with the call-up "Marginal" xASA's?

[Dalek]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

I have a couple of questions from my JASA booking experience this week.

Firstly, how is the cash component of the fare calculated, I notice JessicaTam booked MEL - SYD for the same points but a lower cash component than I booked SYD - CBR. Surprising give the difference in distance.

Secondly, the consultant required me to give her my PIN number in order to do the booking, is this usual?

 

[markis10]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

I have a couple of questions from my JASA booking experience this week.

Firstly, how is the cash component of the fare calculated, I notice JessicaTam booked MEL - SYD for the same points but a lower cash component than I booked SYD - CBR. Surprising give the difference in distance.

Secondly, the consultant required me to give her my PIN number in order to do the booking, is this usual?

Syd CBR and SYD MEL are the same classic award level, which is what the reduction is, without knowing the initial points charges its hard to compare but its quite likely the ASA was cheaper.

 

[QF WP]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

I have a couple of questions from my JASA booking experience this week.

Secondly, the consultant required me to give her my PIN number in order to do the booking, is this usual?

IIRC, they need your PIN to process the award redemption points being taken from your account. Or when you rang up, did you not put in your QFF number and she asked you your details at the end of the booking when processing? That ID's you as being the person whose account is being used.

 

[QF WP]

Re: MASA score

Have just used legrooms' MASA calculator to check mine.

Definitely have an issue with my MASA - it's hit 4 figures (1,101) , so should hardly be called a MASA :shock:

However, I wonder if utilising a distance calculation should be considered...then mine might stack up

 

[JessicaTam]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

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Secondly, the consultant required me to give her my PIN number in order to do the booking, is this usual?

The PIN is required for proof of identity only.

 

[medhead]

Re: MASA score

Productive morning, I've worked out my MASA indices for the last approx 12 months. I do have one Y(V) fare that cost me $46, apparently so I suspect it's a YASA. But I can't find how I purchased it. YASA not a ture MASA with 2 flights as E fares is the worst value. Oh and the third last one was acutally taken under double SC so I've included the non-DSC MASA Index and the DSC MASA Index.

Another Oh - the top 2 a new MASA, the rest are old MASA.

Route	Class	SC	PPSC	$PSC	MASA Index
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	2.58	1030.33
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	2.58	1030.33
ADL-SYD-OOL, BNE-SYD-ADL	J (U)	200	320	1.25	399.04
SYD-BNE-CNS, BNE-SYD	J (U)	140	400	2.62	1047.00
ADL-SYD	J (U)	60	400	1.89	754.60
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	1.89	754.60
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	1.89	754.60
ADL-SYD	J (U)	60	400	1.75	700.00
ADL-SYD-ADL	J (U)	120	400	1.74	695.97	See next line
ADL-SYD-ADL	J (U)	240	200	0.87	173.99	DSC
ADL-BNE-SYD-ADL	Y (X, E,E)	40	575	5.77	3316.03

 

[legroom]

Re: MASA score

Have just used legrooms' MASA calculator to check mine.

Definitely have an issue with my MASA - it's hit 4 figures (1,101) , so should hardly be called a MASA :shock:

However, I wonder if utilising a distance calculation should be considered...then mine might stack up

Well, "Houston, we have a problem"

Too many points + Too much $$ for too little SCs, it seems.

MASA score still needs a little bit of work. ..

That is an understatement of the day

 

[QF WP]

Re: MASA score

Have just used legrooms' MASA calculator to check mine.

Definitely have an issue with my MASA - it's hit 4 figures (1,101) , so should hardly be called a MASA :shock:

However, I wonder if utilising a distance calculation should be considered...then mine might stack up

Productive morning, I've worked out my MASA indices for the last approx 12 months.

Another Oh - the top 2 a new MASA, the rest are old MASA.

Route	Class	SC	PPSC	$PSC	MASA Index
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	2.58	1030.33
SYD-ADL	J (U)	60	400	2.58	1030.33

Now I don't feel so bad , our MASA scores are pretty close [mine is BNE/MEL/PER in J (U)]

 

[QF WP]

Re: MASA score

Well, "Houston, we have a problem"

Too many points + Too much $$ for too little SCs, it seems.

Well it was a pre-MASA booking and I was actually looking for decent timing on the flights, rather than the cheapest points option on OMG flights (so I'll just have to suck it up ).

Route	BNE/MEL/PER
PPS (points per SC)	375.85
$PS ($ per SC)	2.93
MASA score	1101.72

 

[Newk]

Re: MASA score

Well it was a pre-MASA booking and I was actually looking for decent timing on the flights, rather than the cheapest points option on OMG flights (so I'll just have to suck it up ).

exactly. There needs to be modifiers for "I actually need to do this flight at this time" Because when that is the case I am happy to pay a bit more. Rather than the search for a cheap "frivolous" status run sort of thing.

 

[medhead]

Re: MASA score

Now I don't feel so bad , our MASA scores are pretty close [mine is BNE/MEL/PER in J (U)]

I would've expected you to do better having multiple flights. For example my MASA with OOL was bookde as ADL-OOL, BNE-SYD, SYD-ADL. The connection helped improve the value. The CNS one was booked as 3 flights as well, so upto the 1000 mark again. If yours is a new MASA perhaps they priced it as multiple segments.

 

[medhead]

Re: MASA score

exactly. There needs to be modifiers for "I actually need to do this flight at this time" Because when that is the case I am happy to pay a bit more. Rather than the search for a cheap "frivolous" status run sort of thing.

Exactly. All of my flights, except the DSC were flights I wanted to do. Taken my worst value YASA - it required points and $ that I was prepared to pay. Rather than a cost I wasn't prepared to pay for a JASA.

Just looking at the index for my DSC, doubling the earn actually redues the index by 75%, so there is an inverse square relationship. I guess that makes sense having the SC earn in the formula twice. Not sure what that means but I'm not sure that the MASA index is comparable. Maybe if we take the square root, would that counter it? (PPSC*$PSC)^-1/2 Edit: just tested that, it does make SC to index a linear relationship.

 

[legroom]

Re: MASA score

exactly. There needs to be modifiers for "I actually need to do this flight at this time" Because when that is the case I am happy to pay a bit more. Rather than the search for a cheap "frivolous" status run sort of thing.

Newk

I am not a trained mathematician

Plus, MASA score does (should) not apply to "real" travel.

Enjoy your flights - The heck with SCs !

 

[Newk]

Re: MASA score

Newk

I am not a trained mathematician

Plus, MASA score does (should) not apply to "real" travel.

Enjoy your flights - The heck with SCs !

You've created this monster

 

[asg29e]

Re: MASA score

You've created this monster

In fact I think it should be renamed "the Legroom index" in honour.

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: MASA score

exactly. There needs to be modifiers for "I actually need to do this flight at this time" Because when that is the case I am happy to pay a bit more. Rather than the search for a cheap "frivolous" status run sort of thing.

How dare you suggest that status runs are "frivolous"! How very dare you! :shock:

In fact I think it should be renamed "the Legroom index" in honour.

That index may already exist in an entirely different context.

 

[Dalek]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

The PIN is required for proof of identity only.

Thank you JessicaTam and QF WP, I have never heard mention of been asked for your PIN before. Just a bit paranoid about giving out my PIN not that there is much left there to steal now!

 

[serfty]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Thank you JessicaTam and QF WP, I have never heard mention of been asked for your PIN before. Just a bit paranoid about giving out my PIN not that there is much left there to steal now!

Before the time of the interwebs being embraced by Qantas, the only way to book a reward was to telephone - PIN was always required.

Still to this day you need to supply a PIN if booking an award on the 'phone, of course you'll likely be assessed for an assisted award booking fee for a classic.

 

[Newk]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Before the time of the interwebs being embraced by Qantas, the only way to book a reward was to telephone - PIN was always required.

Still to this day you need to supply a PIN if booking an award on the 'phone, of course you'll likely be assessed for an assisted award booking fee for a classic.

I love it that people still write 'phone. My wife always laughs when I do that

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Before the time of the interwebs being embraced by Qantas, the only way to book a reward was to telephone - PIN was always required.

Still to this day you need to supply a PIN if booking an award on the 'phone, of course you'll likely be assessed for an assisted award booking fee for a classic.

What's spooky for me is booking travel for us from Shrek's account and being asked for his PIN ( which of course I know off by heart )