Has anyone had success with the call-up "Marginal" xASA's?

[Danger]

So booking and flying a JASA before 1 July 2014 would earn at the old rate?

(hothead)

That is my fervent hope and understanding, however I'll see if QF agree with me in 5 weeks after the flight

I don't think that's the case. I think if booked post 28/29 March (whichever date they settled on) for travel from 1 July onwards, you would earn at the new rates.

As a member pointed out in the very long heads up thread, it seems QF threw the three month notification period out the window in this respect.

I may well have read it wrong. Apparently it's simpler to understand but I'm also told the Qantas CEO has the support of his employees.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I don't think that's the case. I think if booked post 28/29 March (whichever date they settled on) for travel from 1 July onwards, you would earn at the new rates.

As a member pointed out in the very long heads up thread, it seems QF threw the three month notification period out the window in this respect.

I may well have read it wrong. Apparently it's simpler to understand but I'm also told the Qantas CEO has the support of his employees.

that is correct, earn at the current rates post 1 July only if you have booked prior to March 28 (or whatever).

 

[Red Roo]

I don't think that's the case. I think if booked post 28/29 March (whichever date they settled on) for travel from 1 July onwards, you would earn at the new rates.

As a member pointed out in the very long heads up thread, it seems QF threw the three month notification period out the window in this respect.

I may well have read it wrong. Apparently it's simpler to understand but I'm also told the Qantas CEO has the support of his employees.

To earn at the existing rate, you must book and fly on or before 30 June, 2014, or have booked a flight on or before the 29th of March, 2014.

 

[serfty]

No, it doesn't seem to serfty, but then again, I'm not sure where to look as I haven't used CMT system for years

If it's been ticketed, there will be a "E-Ticket Receipt" tab. It would appear right at the top of the results form near the centre - it's very obvious.

If no e-ticket tab appears then it has likely not yet been ticketed

 

[QF WP]

To earn at the existing rate, you must book and fly on or before 30 June, 2014, or have booked a flight on or before the 29th of March, 2014.

Thank you Red Roo, just the clarification I (and many others here) needed .

So to clarify a final time:

Those mASAs booked before 29th March will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights on/before 30 June) will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights after July 1) will earn at the new rate.
NO booking availability after 1 July.

Get in before the ride is over

 

[kpc]

To earn at the existing rate, you must book and fly on or before 30 June, 2014, or have booked a flight on or before the 29th of March, 2014.

Hi Red Roo, I booked a JASA on 28/3/14 at 1045pm for travel next year but it still has not ticketed...not sure why there is such a dealy. Based on your post above, and the previous one below on 28/3/14, i really do hope I will get SCs based on the current existing rate.
http://www.australianfrequentflyer....out-program-changes-58914-22.html#post1016906

 

[medhead]

To earn at the existing rate, you must book and fly on or before 30 June, 2014, or have booked a flight on or before the 29th of March, 2014.

This does not match the FAQ on the qantas website which says the booking must be before 29 March only. Booking on 29 March means earning is at the new rate, according to the qantas FAQ

Thank you Red Roo, just the clarification I (and many others here) needed .

So to clarify a final time:

Those mASAs booked before 29th March will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights on/before 30 June) will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights after July 1) will earn at the new rate.
NO booking availability after 1 July.

Get in before the ride is over

Same comment 29 March according to the website not 30 March.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Thank you Red Roo, just the clarification I (and many others here) needed .

So to clarify a final time:

Those mASAs booked before 29th March will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights on/before 30 June) will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights after July 1) will earn at the new rate.
NO booking availability after 1 July.

Get in before the ride is over

For the old earning rate does "booked before 29 March" mean up to & including 29 March given that the new earn is for "those booked from & including 30 March"?

Had we been given 3 months notice to still make bookings until 30 June for travel up to 12 months away I probably would've booked an international JASA for 72,000 points plus $460.00 being carrier imposed fees, surcharges & taxes however will now use same points for a Partner award on a different carrier & only $2.50 taxes so I save 99.5% in cash outlay.

I don't want to travel in the next 3 months & have already requalified for WP so will not be doing any more JASA's full stop.

Besides you need the 12 months to be able to get a "U" class seat anyway so how many people are going to be successful in doing an intl booking in this short tine frame even if they wanted to?

Being told you've got to book & travel up to 30 June is akin to being told to make an omelette without breaking an egg.

 

[Red Roo]

Thank you Red Roo, just the clarification I (and many others here) needed .

So to clarify a final time:

Those mASAs booked before 29th March will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights on/before 30 June) will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights after July 1) will earn at the new rate.
NO booking availability after 1 July.

Get in before the ride is over

No worries, what you have written above is correct.

 

[QF WP]

For the old earning rate does "booked before 29 March" mean up to & including 29 March given that the new earn is for "those booked from & including 30 March"?

Yes, before and including 29 March (11:59:59pm)

Had we been given 3 months notice to still make bookings until 30 June for travel up to 12 months away I probably would've booked an international JASA for 72,000 points plus $460.00 being carrier imposed fees, surcharges & taxes however will now use same points for a Partner award on a different carrier & only $2.50 taxes so I save 99.5% in cash outlay.

But we have been given 3 months, have we not??. The effective date is 30 March 2014, with the 3 month window ceasing at 11:59:59pm on 30 June., for possible travel up to 355 days hence.

I don't want to travel in the next 3 months & have already requalified for WP so will not be doing any more JASA's full stop.

Your justification for being able to ignore this change in benefits is therefore sound. You don't need xASA's for renewal purposes, as yuo have no purpose for flying.

Besides you need the 12 months to be able to get a "U" class seat anyway so how many people are going to be successful in doing an intl booking in this short tine frame even if they wanted to?

Depending on where you are looking to travel - some award seats are indeed, snapped up by those able to plan so far ahead. Not all of us have that ability, so delaying making the decision will affect the availability. As you know, flexibility on destination or arrival ports are also beneficial.

 

[kevrosmith]

How does this look?

Book	For Travel	Earn?	Old or New?
On or before 29-Mar	On or before 29-Mar	Yes	Old
On or before 29-Mar	Between 30-Mar & 30-Jun	Yes	Old
On or before 29-Mar	After 30-Jun	Yes	Old
Between 30-Mar & 30-Jun	Between 30-Mar & 30-Jun	Yes	Old
Between 30-Mar & 30-Jun	After 30-Jun	Yes	New
After 30-Jun	After 30-Jun	Booking not possible	n/a
Notes: 1. "Between" is inclusive of the start and end date. 2. "After 30-Jun" also means "from 1-Jul"

Apologies for untidy formatting of table... I don't really know how to format HTML tables in this editor...

 

[QF WP]

Beautiful. just perfect kevrosmith . Wish I had your talent for charts

 

[upupandaway]

In response to the title of this thread, the answer for me is "NO"! Am i doing something wrong?!

I'm having trouble getting a JASA MEL-PER-BME (all same day) for 36,000 points. For travel in July, which I understand will earn at the new rate - which is the same SC's anyway - 140. Both sectors have classic award availability in J.

I have rung up the 1300 number three times and they keep telling me the minimum points is 60,000 (36,000 + 24,000). The successful bookings table suggests this should be possible for minimum 36,000 + co-pay, based on others experience. Is that correct?
Help? Anyone? I am currently gold and need this to get back to WP.

 

[medhead]

No worries, what you have written above is correct.

I strongly suggest you check the FAQ on the website. As it does not match.

 

[medhead]

Yes, before and including 29 March (11:59:59pm)

I guess we have a different dictionary. In mine before does not include, it means before. In any case, the FAQ do not agree.

But we have been given 3 months, have we not??. The effective date is 30 March 2014, with the 3 month window ceasing at 11:59:59pm on 30 June., for possible travel up to 355 days hence.

The new earning table has taken affect with 1.5 days notice.

 

[medhead]

Beautiful. just perfect kevrosmith . Wish I had your talent for charts

Seriously I can express it in 3 lines. I don't see the need to make this overly complex. What did Einstein say? Keep it as simple as possible and no simpler?

 

[QF WP]

I guess we have a different dictionary. In mine before does not include, it means before. In any case, the FAQ do not agree.

No we use the same english dictionary, however I guess we have a different understanding of the use of all the words together. To each, their own...

The new earning table has taken affect with 1.5 days notice.

Whereas in my eyes, as we have been given until 30th June to make any bookings before the option to book mASA's is taken away, I perceive that 3 months requirement has been met (as there is no difference between the first two options below, they both earn at the current rate).

Those mASAs booked before 29th March will earn at the current rate.
Those booked from (and including) 30th March to 30th June (for flights on/before 30 June) will earn at the current rate.

YMMV.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I guess we have a different dictionary. In mine before does not include, it means before. In any case, the FAQ do not agree.



The new earning table has taken affect with 1.5 days notice.

re table: agree - it is very simple. The only confusion was the effective date (27th, 28th, 29th or 30th all seemed to apply at one stage or another).

As for part two - the new earning table has the three month notice period as it doesn't start until 1 July. So that has satisfied the terms and conditions. And any old bookings are protected 9by virtue of the 27/28/29/30 date)

It used to be a 6 month notice period but Qantas took that away for their sole benefit. No one seemed to care though.

 

[serfty]

To earn at the existing rate, you must book and fly on or before 30 June, 2014, or have booked a flight on or before the 29th of March, 2014.

If this is correct, the cutover date has been moved in the last few days from 28th to 29th March.

 

[kevrosmith]

Seriously I can express it in 3 lines. I don't see the need to make this overly complex. What did Einstein say? Keep it as simple as possible and no simpler?

I find that different people consume information differently and in different preferred formats... generally I try to present information in at least three different formats to allow different types of people to receive it in a way which suits their learning style. These are just two ways to present it. I've got a friend who'd probably be able to express it in some complex (in my view) scientific algorithm using greek letters, and they'd probably find that simpler to understand, from their perspective. YMMY

(I'm not taking any feedback as criticism, just as observation, and I always acknowledge that there are often other and better ways to do things...)