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Okay so I'm about to book the Amtrak Cascades train from Vancouver to Seattle. The train only runs at 0630 and some evening slot. They also sell bus tickets every hour during the day. It takes half an hour less but train's the way to go for me.
Pretty cheap too (cheaper than the bus) at $US32. I was about to book when I saw "business class" was $US55. I was wondering if it was worth it. On Countrylink (NSW) you book First Class basically to escape the bogan/feral element and pay twice as much. This isn't as expensive but I imagine this train is probably half empty anyway so may not be any advantage. Still we're only talking small change in the scheme of things.
I've done that twice. Once with the bus, connecting to the train in Seattle on to Portland, once on the train.
The train is better then the bus.
On the bus, it stops at the Blaine border crossing and it's everyone off with bags to go through CBP.
On the train, there's a preclearance lite before getting on the train in Vancouver, then the train stops near Blaine and CBP gets on to check passports.
 
I've done that twice. Once with the bus, connecting to the train in Seattle on to Portland, once on the train.
The train is better then the bus.
On the bus, it stops at the Blaine border crossing and it's everyone off with bags to go through CBP.
On the train, there's a preclearance lite before getting on the train in Vancouver, then the train stops near Blaine and CBP gets on to check passports.

Thanks for that. It means getting to the station a bit early but the comfort of a train is so much better than a bus.

We looked at taking the train from NY to Philadelphia last year but it was going to cost us something like $400 for a day return for a family of four! The bus cost us $40. No brainer, sadly. This is such a better deal. In fact the bus costs more than the train as it's a bit faster. There are probably other buses though which are cheaper.
 
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I took 2 train trips over the long weekend.

First was the XPT from Sawtell(just south of Coffs Harbour) to Brisbane.

Price was $119 compared to the prices of $472-$650 on Qantas or Virgin.

Hard to tell how clean it was as when I got on the cabin was already dark.

I dozed for part of the way to Casino as the cabin was more than half full, then the passenger got off the train and I was able to sleep on the 2 seats, until the lights came on at 3:18 for breakfast announcements and the expected arrival into Brisbane at 3:45am (trip was about 5hrs 30 minutes with the daylight saving time.
Once the train arrived into Brisbane I caught uber home and then slept for about 3 hours, I will probably do it again if airfares are expensive.

On the Monday I did another first trip, the line to Redcliffe Peninsula was having an open day, and trains were running between Kippa Ring and Petrie.

A new platform was created at Petrie and then 6 new stations were built on 12.6kms of dual track to Kippa Ring, more from wiki

Some photos from the weekend.

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I took 2 train trips over the long weekend.

First was the XPT from Sawtell(just south of Coffs Harbour) to Brisbane.

Price was $119 compared to the prices of $472-$650 on Qantas or Virgin.




We caught the XPT from Syd to Wauchope last Wed. Was only $40 odd each including suburban ride from Caringbah to Central-despite the school holidays & all seats being used at some stage. Seems even booking the day before we were able to get non-cancellable economy tickets. Only slow part of the journey is the loop out through Gloucester
 
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Thanks for that. It means getting to the station a bit early but the comfort of a train is so much better than a bus.

We looked at taking the train from NY to Philadelphia last year but it was going to cost us something like $400 for a day return for a family of four! The bus cost us $40. No brainer, sadly. This is such a better deal. In fact the bus costs more than the train as it's a bit faster. There are probably other buses though which are cheaper.


I looked at the grey dog web site and $10 each way per head, even 11pm bus couldn't match the train time wise.

I can see Amtrak super saver fares for $300 return for 4 adults, but yes there is a difference. Amtrak does it in 1 hour and 10 minutes, the bus takes 2 hours and 10 minutes. So for a day trip you get an extra couple of hours at your destination or a sleep in :D.

So a no brainer for me to use the train.

Matt
 
Had some Indian rail trips a couple of weeks ago.

First was for work, organised by my staff member in Delhi, from Delhi to Ludhiana in Punjab. The journey was about 4 hours. Executive class (EC) seat, was clean, 4 seats across, air conditioned (rather cold) and service started with a thermos of tea, then water bottle plus meal and juice all served at our seats.

Next my partner joined me for a trip down to Agra to see Taj Mahal on the weekend. We booked over the internet on www.irctc.co.in following the advice from the Man in Seat 61. This involved setting up an account and sending off passport scan to have the account authenticated. Once done, tickets were easy to book. We booked the fast train down to Agra, the Gatimaan express, India's fastest train which does the 200km journey from Delhi's Nizamuddin station to Agra in about 1:40. We went in Chair Class (CC) which is five across, were served the juice, cup of tea and tasty meal, and service just completed in time for arrival.

Coming back, we booked confirmed seats on one train, but waitlisted for later train which came available, so cancelled early train at penalty of about $4AUD per pax. This was a 2nd class sleeper, no food service this time. As it was day train, seats were made up. Not so comfortable, but an experience nevertheless. Journey took a much longer 3.5 hrs. The main downside was at the start, before the train left Agra, a young begging child came through and persisted with us being the only white people in the carriage, grabbing my ankles. But it is India, you come to expect that.
 
Had some Indian rail trips a couple of weeks ago.

First was for work, organised by my staff member in Delhi, from Delhi to Ludhiana in Punjab. The journey was about 4 hours. Executive class (EC) seat, was clean, 4 seats across, air conditioned (rather cold)

In tropical countries, whether travelling by airconditioned train or bus, it seems very common for the aircon to be set to 18 degrees - way too cold. This can even be the case at night.

While it seems a silly thing to do, I try to always have a coat and jumper handy as 21 or 22 degrees is comfortable in my book, not 18.
 
Took the Amtrak today from NYP-WAS in J. I guessed which track it was coming in on (listened to the calls for red coats) and was down the escalator very quickly and secured a window seat. The train filled up very quickly and after the first stop had a seat mate for the rest of the journey.

It was quite a pleasant journey and a good way to see the country side. Power point beside me so I could use the laptop and charge the phone.
 
Family and I took a couple of train trips over the last month whilst travelling through Europe where such things are sooooo much easier.

Trip 1: Copenhagen to Berlin.
Waited around at Copenhagen main station for a while after returning a hire car and then the trained pulled in, only for a few minutes before it was off at a decent clip. It was an ICE-TD if that means anything (standard German ICE, T for tilting and D for Diesel). The routing was Copenhagen to Munich and then change trains to get to Berlin. Interesting point was the crossing from Denmark to Germany was via ferry, and the whole train actually drove onto the ferry for the crossing. We all had to get off and leave luggage on the train, which was locked up for the hour or so of the crossing. Wandered about the ferry and watched it depart/dock. Overall journey took about 5 and a half hours. Tickets booked very simply through DB Bahn the German operators website. Much cheaper than flying.

Trip 2: Berlin to Prague
Berlin Hauptbahnhof (Main train station) is pretty impressive and was clean and smooth to transit through. This train took about 4 hours and was pretty packed but the scenery along the route was impressive. On time and again pretty easy although the etiquette of our cabin mates left a little to be desired (but then, we had a 4-year old with us so maybe a bit each way!).

Trip 3: Krakow to Budapest (overnight)
Decided to try the sleeper so we had a 3-berth for Mrs. Scarlett, Mstr. Scarlett and I. Pretty space constrained when you're on a month long journey through Europe, but we made it work and all seemed smooth enough. Not sure I'd do this particular journey again however, as these are the downsides:
- Train departed Krakow about 2145hrs, so we had to fill in a couple of extra hours of the day just to get to the departure time. (couldn't just check in the luggage and relax in the lounge!)
- Sleeper cabins are small, but fortunately, sleeping was all we were doing.
- Would have loved a shower but used a damp cloth to freshen up before getting changed and climbing into our bunks.
- Sleep was ok but woke a couple of times due to the clunking of the track and when we were stopped at stations enroute and carriages were being shunted about. Still, got more sleep than I usually manage on a long haul in J, but probably not as elegantly!
- We arrived into Budapest at 0845 so then had to use the metro to get to our hotel. We were VERY fortunate to be able to check-in early. I wouldn't have liked to have dropped bags and gone out sightseeing without being able to access our room and freshening up.
Tickets booked through Czech Rail and cost about EUR100 per person which I recall was again cheaper than flying.

More to follow...
 
Trip 4: Budapest to Bucharest (overnight)
This was a much more pleasant trip than our previous overnight experience. Even though it was an older Romanian carriage, it seemed to have much smoother and quieter ride qualities. Plus it departed at 1945 so we didn't have to stretch the evening out as much, and then arrived about lunch time into Bucharest. That meant we could sleep in as long as we wanted and then still relax and watch the journey go by in the morning. This was certainly the case as we rode along the Carpathian Mtns and then descended down out of them in the hour to 90mins before arriving in Bucharest.

So I've tried overnight train travel and I have to say that I'm not really sold. I get that the main benefit is one of cost as the sleepers are comparable to or cheaper than flying (especially if it's not a main LCC route) and it saves the cost of overnight accom, but I think in future I'll stick to air travel.
 
Well I'm back and I must say the train from Vancouver to Seattle was a nice change. As detailed in other posts (thanks!) you have to get there bright and early (I was there a little after 5am) and go through the American immigration point with the photo and fingerprints then you're free to get on the train and sit there for an hour before departure. One thing to note: they don't turn on the train wi-fi until the train crosses into the US of A (for some legal reason). You can get wifi from the Greyhound depot next door while you're sitting on the train though.

After an hour the train stops and we were informed the border security officials were boarding. All this consisted of was two burly blokes walking through the train telling us to have our IDs and customs forms ready. Then a small woman followed them, glancing at passports and grabbing the white papers. They were on and off in less than ten minutes. Easiest entry to the US I've ever had.

It was a nice trip with some good views along the coast. Food was edible, I didn't explore the menu too far. All I remember is they wouldn't accept Canadian coins but they would do notes. It all passed pretty quickly and I was soon in the heart of Seattle where a $6.50 Uber fare got me to my accommodation near the convention centre. Well worth it to avoid airport security and quick passage to the centre.
 
Went for a ride on the Pemberton Tram today and noticed this steam loco. I don't know if anyone will restore it or whether it will just sit there and rust.

Don't know it's history either.

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We were there a few weeks ago also. The steam train used to run services north from Pemberton to a siding called Lyall, toward Manjimup. The railway to the north looks like it has not been functional for some years (as do the carriages!). Presumably they didn't have the resources - financial, volunteer etc - to maintain this service.

Here's a video showing the engine in steam and the carriages looking healthier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBDra5tXAQQ

Cheers skip
 
It's a pity they don't have the funds to keep this train serviceable. I noticed the wildlife have already started to take up residence in both the carriages and the engine.
 
I'm at the Lego exhibition in BNE today ( with my Grandchildren in tow) saw this little beauty.

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Talking of trains:

The Brisbane Limited - Featuring the 621/721 rail motor to Grafton and Brisbane - an exceptionally rare opportunity - sail home on Sun Princess The Brisbane Limited - October 2017


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