General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[lovetravellingoz]

and we are already running out of reagent ….

Yes it was indicated a few days ago that the very large rate of testing was soaking up supply with the overseas sources of reagent drying up.

I do not have the link to hand now, but medical authorities were looking tighten up on who could get a test (as many people were wanting tests just to show that they did not have it when they had little or no symptoms) and secondly they indicated that they were looking to develop things to allow local production of reagents.

 

[Pushka]

I think removing spectators is all about reducing the overall risk of person to person transmission in the broader community, especially with crowds of up to 80,000 odd at some games.

...rather than removing spectators to prevent teams becoming infected.



In terms of team protection the team follow has fully separated players/coaches/trainers etc from all the club admin staff with no mixing. Fans are no longer allowed to attend training. Most likely other clubs will have down the same.


However if the rate of spread keeps increasing it would only be a matter of time before one player or coach becomes infected, and at that time the team would have to go into 14 day isolation. At that time if still running the competition would most probably be suspended.

Yes I totally get that. But surely the risk to players is as important and they do touch each other, spit, sweat a whole lot!

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Yes it was indicated a few days ago that the very large rate of testing was soaking up supply with the overseas sources of reagent drying up.

I do not have the link to hand now, but medical authorities were looking tighten up on who could get a test (as many people were wanting tests just to show that they did not have it when they had little or no symptoms) and secondly they indicated that they were looking to develop things to allow local production of reagents.

This is my understanding too. Supplies are getting very short.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The restriction on large gatherings is also to reduce the pressure on emergency services - ambulance and other medical staff that need to be in attendance - so they can focus on the virus.

 

[jase05]

Prayer seems to be working for Bali.

Italy not so much though.

 

[Pushka]

Italy not so much though.

Yeah, maybe the virus is just Anti Catholic?

 

[amaroo]

Spectator ban will have almost zero impact on the NRL as they get their audience from TV. AFL is a different story...

 

[jase05]

Spectator ban will have almost zero impact on the NRL as they get their audience from TV. AFL is a different story...

NRL are in a far more perilous position than the AFL though. The AFL has a fair cash reserve and possibly can ride this out. If the NRL season doesn’t go ahead they could be on the brink hence why they are so keen to continue playing and have even moved the NZ Warriors players to Australia and will play their games at neutral venues

 

[moa999]

While China produced stats are going down, you only need to look at FlightRadar to see there is no such thing as a nationwide quarantine.

The only thing seemingly being locked down is the media.

Now yes they seem to be discouraging movement and gatherings, but not stopping it

 

[amaroo]

NRL are in a far more perilous position than the AFL though. The AFL has a fair cash reserve and possibly can ride this out. If the NRL season doesn’t go ahead they could be on the brink hence why they are so keen to continue playing and have even moved the NZ Warriors players to Australia and will play their games at neutral venues

Any business that has to sit out their high season is going go to be on brink. Retail, hospitality, travel, education, you name it.

 

[get me outta here]

Yes I agree, that’s why it’s so silly. As someone here said recently you can’t believe the New York times you can’t believe the ABC and all that etc etc.

That’s what annoys me about bagging outlets which are clearly sharing information anyway

I don’t know who or what you may have been criticised for but I know it wasn’t me.

And in fairness, I've been shot down when positing a news.com.au web link about stories that are true and the same as carried by the ABC. Go figure!

 

[JessicaTam]

My kids are now calling the virus "The boomer remover".

Hopefully you set them straight on how distressing such a comment could be.

 

[get me outta here]

Watched the health minister and the CMO being interviewed by David Spears this morning. The CMO is being reactive not proactive and all Hunt said whilst putting on an earnest face was blah blah blah blah. Spears was quite soft on the CMO as a civilian.
I doubt that anyone found hunt making them feel better about what is happening or what is going to happen. He keeps talking about six months down the track. Not six days.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

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Dan Suan
March 13 at 8:37 PM

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Hi a few people asked me where Australia is at the moment with Covid-19. We reached our 100th case on Tuesday the 10th of March (3 days ago, x-axis), and we now have 199 confirmed cases (y-axis) - I've plotted this point with a red dot. We are testing really well, so it is a fairly accurate number, waaayyy more accurate than the USA which is on the precipice of a total disaster (separate story, I'm so upset).

It's at a very early part of the curve, but you can see we are doing really well compared to other industrialised nations (we want to be as close to the Japanese, Singaporean and Hong Kong curves as possible).

The next two weeks is absolutely critical to the direction of this curve. Total social isolation, complete interpersonal distancing, combined with massively increased testing (which we have just built capacity for this week in our labs) will flatten this curve and save countless Australian lives.

We can do this with no vaccine and no effective antivirals. Each individual simply has to make it their personal responsibility to have minimal contact with all other people. Cancel all unnecessary things. I am running my clinics by phone so patients don't have to come to hospital. We have a narrow window of opportunity to do this, this could not be more urgent. I hope you understand I would not say this if I was not absolutely sure of how critical this is. Please share with your family and friends. Sending lots of love, take care please ❤

Dan Suan MBBS FRACP FRCPA PhD
Staff Specialist Immunologist, Westmead Hospital
Staff Specialist Immunopathologist, NSW Health Pathology
Research Officer, Immunogenomics Lab, Garvan Institute

 

[33kft]

Hopefully you set them straight on how distressing such a comment could be.

Just shows what a caustic and offensive narrative has been normalised, I am neither of those generations but inbetween, but I'm sincerely distressed first that children would talk about their own parents' generation like that, but also that such a sense of entitlement exists. How about a bit of respect for a generation that absolutely lived through their own challenges, different of course to today's generation, but without the benefit of much of the on-tap information that today's generation to have as well as the technological sophistication to understand and manage all that we know today.

So if I as a member of neither of the generations referenced find it distressing I can't imagine how I'd feel were that a reference to my situation.

 

[get me outta here]

Anyone seen more on this : "People in Britain aged over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation for four months as part of a planned response to coronavirus". Interesting logistics coming up if so.

 

[SydneySwan]

I think the Italians are about to take the ‘Ballard of NaraYama’ approach to the over 80s.

 

[AisleSeat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1238524715272155138

 

[Andy_M]

Isn't it all about controlling the speed at which the virus hits so that the intensive resources can be spread out over a longer period in the hopes of saving more people? They knew they were never going to stop it but just slow it down. Drip feed as it were.

Thanks understood. I have to say Governments around the world are doing a terrible job explaining to the masses why we are having these extreme measures of lock downs and border controls, its not the buponic plague we`re facing its to flatten out the infection curve so that medical facilities and staff can cope. Going to Singapore ex Sydney tomorrow, Monday, on a need to basis, hope that will go ahead before Australia closes its borders. Fully accept and willing to self isolate if needed on return trip.

 

[drron]

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Yes an interesting graph.I note there are quite a few bagging Japan for not doing enough testing to explain their slower rate in numbers of cases.
But to me there is something that Japan,Singapore and Hong Kong have in common-populations that are willing to have good hygiene and to follow advice ie the benign dictatorships in 2 of them.

 

[Pushka]

Thanks understood. I have to say Governments around the world are doing a terrible job explaining to the masses why we are having these extreme measures of lock downs and border controls, its not the buponic plague we`re facing its to flatten out the infection curve so that medical facilities and staff can cope. Going to Singapore ex Sydney tomorrow, Monday, on a need to basis, hope that will go ahead before Australia closes its borders. Fully accept and willing to self isolate if needed on return trip.

Yes. Agree. And comments like ‘most people will be relatively well’ don’t assist people in understanding the threat for those ~20% who will be very ill and we just don’t have the resources needed.

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Yes an interesting graph.I note there are quite a few bagging Japan for not doing enough testing to explain their slower rate in numbers of cases.
But to me there is something that Japan,Singapore and Hong Kong have in common-populations that are willing to have good hygiene and to follow advice ie the benign dictatorships in 2 of them.

Benevolent.