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General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

lovetravellingoz

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i did see they were looking at exemptions for Australians who arrive on the direct flight from Perth. Plus they seem to be reviewing the youth visa applications for Aussies and extending the time to first arrive in the UK.
The current list of 'exceptions' to the quarantine rules is about 40 long. Yeah but nah but yeah but nah but. Absolute bollocks.

Sigh... or just laugh?

The problem is reminiscent of British railway issues such as “leaves on the line” and trains being delayed after encountering the “wrong type of snow”.

Don't forget ....... it's too windy ........ it's too hot (30 degrees) .......... it's too wet, etc.

Sad. The UK has continued to be an example of what not to do.
You certainly don't need to tell me that :( Still no sign of full lock down easing in the next month.
 

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Sigh... or just laugh?

The problem is reminiscent of British railway issues such as “leaves on the line” and trains being delayed after encountering the “wrong type of snow”.

It was no easier at my test - the swab had a cut, but trying to actually break it off with only one hand was pretty hard! Of course the supervising nurse can't do anything to help, and there's no way to free up your other hand as you're carrying all these papers and forms (no where to put them, being ultra CV19 safe and all).

As an aside - I recall reading the science behind the 'leaves on the line'... apparently it's the oil in the leaves that gets forced out when a train passes over, making the tracks too slippery for following trains to brake safely. And the same with the 'wrong kind of snow' - flattened snow becomes dangerous ice. But of course the media loves to make a story out of it!
 

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only managed one day
Think you'll find that they managed a week and 1 day, most of the independent and catholic/community schools started back full time last week (18th May), it was only state schools that delayed the start until yesterday. Waverly definitely returned on 18th.

Anyway more interesting is to understand how these kids aquired their cases - had they returned from overseas or been visiting someone who had?

Im also perplexed at tthis statement in the article "If this was influenza," infectious disease physician and microbiologist Peter Collignon added, "we would keep schools closed until this was over". " I dont ever recall a school being closed because a single student has contracted the flu. Im sure many teachers and students suffer influenza every year.
 
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Think you'll find that they managed a week and 1 day, most of the independent and catholic/community schools started back full time last week (18th May), it was only state schools that delayed the start until yesterday. Waverly definitely returned on 18th.

Anyway more interesting is to understand how these kids aquired their cases - had they returned from overseas or been visiting someone who had?

Im also perplexed at tthis statement in the article "If this was influenza," infectious disease physician and microbiologist Peter Collignon added, "we would keep schools closed until this was over". " I dont ever recall a school being closed because a single student has contracted the flu. Im sure many teachers and students suffer influenza every year.
Me either. Nursing homes maybe but schools? Good grief. And this is going to be the way it will be for a while. Close down the risk areas but not the whole country.
 

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Well the nice period of putting politics aside was good while it lasted .

Had to have a giggle when simple Simon fired petty potshots at Anna over the QLD border being closed when she came back with the following barrage. Serves him right.

 

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1.5 million tests in day in a single city is quite amazing...

As it that Wuhan's Government said it tested 9 million out of the city's 11 million residents in 10 days !



To test quickly, health authorities are reportedly using what is called batch or pool testing — combining samples from 10 people or fewer and conducting one test.

If the test comes up positive, all samples will be individually tested.

According to Professor Cheng of Alfred Health, "pooling of specimens is a valid strategy, but the optimal pool size depends on how often there are positives — if they are rare, then pooling 10, or even more, is an efficient use of resources."

"But if 5-10 per cent are positive, then you can only pool a few otherwise you'll need to re-test many individual specimens."
 
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During the Swine Flu epidemic some nursing homes went into lockdown but not schools.Also Australia did not close our borders though before planes were allowed to deplane pax Custom Officers checked the cabins and thermal imaging was used.

Unlike other flu epidemics the Swine flu affected mainly the under 65s.The highest rates usually in the 0-17 age group.Australia usually only tested severe cases so figures not reliable.but the NZ figures were 0-17-20% infected, 18-64- 7% ,Over 64 - 1%.

Officially Australia had 191 deaths but some estimated 1600 deaths as in this report from the Lancet.

the break up of cases and deaths.

And just to show that some never learn from their mistakes was the case of the Pacific Dawn.
"SYDNEY (AFP) – Australian authorities defended a decision to let 2,000 passengers off a cruise ship where there was a suspected swine flu outbreak, as the confirmed cases here more than doubled in 24 hours.

Despite suspicions a number of people on board the Pacific Dawn liner were suffering swine flu more than 2,000 passengers were allowed to return to the community Monday and told to self-quarantine for seven days.

A total of 14 passengers have since been diagnosed with the deadly virus, with 172 people on board showing flu-like symptoms or reporting contact with someone who did."
 

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