General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

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Was on the preventive until quite recently, but has not been taking anything most of the last year. But the computer said yes, so he gets the jab early.

Unbelievable! I've definitely been short changed, then. Hopefully sort that tomorrow :)
 

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Checklist before getting your shot.
Take multivitamins the week before. Vit D and Zinc good.
Lay off the booze/heavy drinking - Russian levels is bad for AZ and the like.
Get a good nights sleep the night before.

Sidenote: Scottish trials for AZ are really good - really great news relative to trial numbers in other places. Does one extrapolate that Scotch whiskey is good, and vodka bad? Or is it their black stout? Either way, I doubt the vaccine training pack has any mention about administration to clearly drunk/sloshed patients.
 

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Checklist before getting your shot.
Take multivitamins the week before. Vit D and Zinc good.
Lay off the booze/heavy drinking - Russian levels is bad for AZ and the like.
Get a good nights sleep the night before.

Sidenote: Scottish trials for AZ are really good - really great news relative to trial numbers in other places. Does one extrapolate that Scotch whiskey is good, and vodka bad? Or is it their black stout? Either way, I doubt the vaccine training pack has any mention about administration to clearly drunk/sloshed patients.
Heard today that UK had vaccinated 30% of adults and their current effectiveness rates was 90% mostly after one shot. Presuming AZ being the most used one.
 

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The UK figures have improved dramatically.
This a Sky News report on 16/2 -

COVID-19: Another 738 deaths and 12,718 cases in UK - as over 15.9m have had first vaccine dose​

Official figures show that 15,940,972 people have now had their first dose of a vaccine and 546,165 have had a second dose.

Wednesday 17 February 2021 23:37, UK

But as of yesterday the number who have had their first dose of vaccine is over 20 million and just over 796,000 their second.
And the daily figures dramatically down.

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The UK figures have improved dramatically.
This a Sky News report on 16/2 -

COVID-19: Another 738 deaths and 12,718 cases in UK - as over 15.9m have had first vaccine dose​

Official figures show that 15,940,972 people have now had their first dose of a vaccine and 546,165 have had a second dose.

Wednesday 17 February 2021 23:37, UK

But as of yesterday the number who have had their first dose of vaccine is over 20 million and just over 796,000 their second.
And the daily figures dramatically down.

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I also heard that all adults would be offered the vaccine by July. Bittersweet for son in UK. He will be very happy that UK has got to that point, because it will mean they can actually go out of the house to socialise after four months being inside, but hes the kind who faints with needles. He goes blue in the lips, goes very pale, and then sweats. But he will have it done. His likely then wife wont let him get away without it. 😆
 

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No good with the GP, my 'illness' is 'too well managed', so it's to the back of the vaccine queue for me and they'll get onto it when they reach my age group. I suspect Mrs FB will have had her 2nd shot already by the time I get my first. The madness of it all....
 

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I also heard that all adults would be offered the vaccine by July. Bittersweet for son in UK. He will be very happy that UK has got to that point, because it will mean they can actually go out of the house to socialise after four months being inside, but hes the kind who faints with needles. He goes blue in the lips, goes very pale, and then sweats. But he will have it done. His likely then wife wont let him get away without it. 😆
I am scare of needles as well. When I had the jab for the 1st dose, I just closed my eyes and it was over within 5 sec. Thank goodness!
 

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Read a bit on the J & J vaccine and I would still prefer the Oxford vaccine.

"Overall, the vaccine was approximately 67% effective in preventing moderate to severe/critical COVID-19 occurring at least 14 days after vaccination and 66% effective in preventing moderate to severe/critical COVID-19 occurring at least 28 days after vaccination.

Additionally, the vaccine was approximately 77% effective in preventing severe/critical COVID-19 occurring at least 14 days after vaccination and 85% effective in preventing severe/critical COVID-19 occurring at least 28 days after vaccination.

There were 116 cases of COVID-19 in the vaccine group that occurred at least 14 days after vaccination, and 348 cases of COVID-19 in the placebo group during this time period. There were 66 cases of COVID-19 in the vaccine group that occurred at least 28 days after vaccination and 193 cases of COVID-19 in the placebo group during this time period. Starting 14 days after vaccination, there were 14 severe/critical cases in the vaccinated group versus 60 in the placebo group, and starting 28 days after vaccination, there were 5 severe/critical in the vaccine group versus 34 cases in the placebo group."


That's a lot of moderate to severe/critical disease when in Scotland and England the AZ/Oxford vaccine is showing 94% effectiveness at preventing hospital admissions after the first dose.
 

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Canada has now bought the Oxford vaccine.

And 2 more studies recording a much higher level of antibodies in those who have had Covid after their first shot of vaccine.

 

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Some people want mandatory vaccinations for people to work.Of all companies Marriott has come up with the best plan.
"It has been announced that Marriott has created the Vaccination Care Program, which will provide financial rewards to associates at managed properties in the United States and Canada. With this, Marriott employees will receive the equivalent of four hours of pay upon getting vaccinated."

 

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Some people want mandatory vaccinations for people to work.Of all companies Marriott has come up with the best plan.
"It has been announced that Marriott has created the Vaccination Care Program, which will provide financial rewards to associates at managed properties in the United States and Canada. With this, Marriott employees will receive the equivalent of four hours of pay upon getting vaccinated."


Interesting... being the USA I can't help but wonder if there's a catch? For example, time off taken to go to a doctor is unlikely to be 'paid' time. So the 4 hours is just making up for wages that would otherwise be earned?
 

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Interesting... being the USA I can't help but wonder if there's a catch? For example, time off taken to go to a doctor is unlikely to be 'paid' time. So the 4 hours is just making up for wages that would otherwise be earned?
Many will get the vax in their own time, anyway. So, Marriott is providing an incentive.
 

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What a sad, cynical response ☹️
Especially as the article says that Marriott is encouraging hotel managers to give staff flexibility to get the vaccine.

"Marriott states that it supports global vaccination efforts. The company is also providing education on the benefits of the vaccination and directing hotel management to allow for schedule flexibility for vaccination appointments. Marriott is strongly encouraging associates to get vaccinated, but isn’t making it mandatory for now."
 

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Especially as the article says that Marriott is encouraging hotel managers to give staff flexibility to get the vaccine.

"Marriott states that it supports global vaccination efforts. The company is also providing education on the benefits of the vaccination and directing hotel management to allow for schedule flexibility for vaccination appointments. Marriott is strongly encouraging associates to get vaccinated, but isn’t making it mandatory for now."

What a sad, cynical response ☹️

Might be cynical, but that's the way the USA can be unfortunately :( Allowing 'schedule flexibility' doesn't mean 'paid' flexibility. It might just mean you aren't fired for going to the doctor when you have a shift.

It was promoted by stories such as this: Flight attendants reveal one of the worst parts of their job — they don't always get paid for all of the hours they work where some US flight attendants are only paid for 'flight hours'. Other activity such as waiting at airports (even between flights), checking emergency equipment, or welcoming passengers on board is unpaid.
 
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