While it may be the case that it means what you said, perhaps we should waitto see the detail of what they are proposing.munitalP said:Again we learn through the newspapers that Qantas intend to revamp the FF program - "to improve it's service"
Spin doctoring for "screw its members even harder"
How long can my loyalty last?
More here from The AustralianClifford Reichlin, a director of frequentflyer.com.au, said yesterday the Qantas program, which signs up 28,000 new members a month, had been steadily devalued over the past 10 years. He said passengers were paying more points per flight and having increasing difficulty in being able to use their points. "You can trace it from the collapse of Ansett (in 2001)," he said.
AA however also do not discriminate between flying points and cc points when getting an award.In addition AA also count your credit card points for lifetime recognition a fact which I am taking "advantage" of.So QF is in fact more loyal to their flight point earners than AA.turtlemichael said:I can't contemplate how Qantas may manage the difference between points earned by flying and points earned by using a credit card etc. Maybe they don't see a difference ?
It would be conterproductive in terms of loyalty if people who earn by flying, or rather earn most of their points by flying, still can't get an award seat because they have been taken by card users able to plan 360 days in advance. Or maybe Qantas will only recognise loyalty via the status parts of the scheme, similar to CX, and using points will become a free for all?
Interesting times ahead. I'd suggest that if they are looking at it, it's timely to remind QF of how bad the scheme is compared with AA, *A schemes etc as Admin apparently just did.
I would have thought that by allowing you to buy any seat, it would make splitting off FF into a separate entity easier. After all, that entity will be buying the seats off QFF with your points, so what does it matter to them how many points were involved.jakeseven7 said:Alot of negativity.....
They are making all the right noises IMO - making any seat available etc. I have a problem with my points that alot of people here share - ****loads of them but can't use them - I'd rather pay more points (like Virgin/NZ) and get a seat anywhere!
I would rather they left this alone. I have no problem redeeming the seats I want now so get a negative vibe that if they try to make any seat available the FF points required for the cheapest seat will increase as well.oz_mark said:I would have thought that by allowing you to buy any seat, it would make splitting off FF into a separate entity easier.
I must admit that I have burnt about 200,000 points in the past 8 months or so on J upgrades (LAX-MEL, MEL-HKG-MEL) as well as some whY awards between MEL and BNE, so cannot really fault availability either.straitman said:
Dont forget the 300 QFF points that will be credited to your account in about 2 weeks.jbc said:I just received a very extensive survey from EMAILCASH re QFF which took over 30 minutes, covering all imaginable options including 6pts per dollar with Jetstar. In total there were 14 possible programs, covering most possibilties raised in this thread. Leading Edge did the survey and they are legitimate.
IIRC previous invites to complete a survey were sent out over a period of a few days, so don't rule yourself out as yet.oz_mark said:Rather disappointed I did not get an invte for this survey