Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[BAM1748]

I wasn't aware of the "policy"?

Is that actually documented anywhere? You'd want to ensure your 10th booking was MEL/SYD-LHR and not MEL/SYD-CBR!

Not public as not guaranteed, just on a best efforts basis.

 

[docjames]

How are you aware of this / where was this "announced" (or perhaps acknowledged, accepting it's not "policy")?

I've just never heard it before so am interested.

 

[kermatu]

How are you aware of this / where was this "announced" (or perhaps acknowledged, accepting it's not "policy")?

I've just never heard it before so am interested.

If true, then MEL-CBR must always be my 10th booking!

 

[bjm76]

Hi all

Another question from myself (sorry)... could I please see loadings on QF1 from SYD to LHR departing SYD on 17-Feb-18.
Am booked in J and have requested points upgrade to F, would be interested to see how busy the flight is (I know a bit hard to tell this far out).

Many thanks

 

[bjm76]

I suspect you are right. But you never know (some WPs may already have been bumped to facilitate further Y sales, so what remains could be available).

Let us know how you go.

I know this is late, but will report that there was no upgrade for QF23 on 26-Dec-17 and flight seemed incredibly full, I didn't see a spare seat anywhere in Y.

Also flew back from BKK to SYD on QF24 on 6-Jan-18 - had also requested points upgrade from Y to J - was declined - also a very full flight - what I was pleased with was the small lady in front of me reclining all the way back as soon as possible after take-off and then refusing to put her seat upright for the meal service. Made for a lovely flight. I think I will pick bulkhead seats next time, even with the reduced seat width and not that much legroom, at least wont have someone reclining into me. Off topic I know.

#endrant

 

[Steady]

Hi all

Another question from myself (sorry)... could I please see loadings on QF1 from SYD to LHR departing SYD on 17-Feb-18.
Am booked in J and have requested points upgrade to F, would be interested to see how busy the flight is (I know a bit hard to tell this far out).

Many thanks

F6 A3 J9 C9 D3 I0 W9 R8 T0 Y9 B9 H9K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 X9

 

[kermatu]

I know this is late, but will report that there was no upgrade for QF23 on 26-Dec-17 and flight seemed incredibly full, I didn't see a spare seat anywhere in Y.

Also flew back from BKK to SYD on QF24 on 6-Jan-18 - had also requested points upgrade from Y to J - was declined - also a very full flight - what I was pleased with was the small lady in front of me reclining all the way back as soon as possible after take-off and then refusing to put her seat upright for the meal service. Made for a lovely flight. I think I will pick bulkhead seats next time, even with the reduced seat width and not that much legroom, at least wont have someone reclining into me. Off topic I know.

#endrant

Thanks for the feedback.

In my experience staff on all airlines can be hit and miss with whether they request and then enforce the seat back upright during meals. Personally I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect seats to be upright during scheduled meal services.

 

[bosox76]

Hi all was hoping to get an updated guide on the chance of a points upgrade from J to F for Mrs B and I on QF 9 from MEL to LHR departing this Sunday the 21st of Jan. thanks in advance.

 

[serfty]

Hi all was hoping to get an updated guide on the chance of a points upgrade from J to F for Mrs B and I on QF 9 from MEL to LHR departing this Sunday the 21st of Jan. thanks in advance.

Chances are reasonable ...
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing MEL on 21/01/18 12:00 AM for LHR, Flying QF

                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 9          1      MEL                LHR                388       Unavailable     F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I9 W5 R3 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0
                     21/01/18 11:25 PM  22/01/18 12:40 PM            NA / NA

 

[nicky286]

Hi All

Travelling on the 21 Jan QF 42
I am a silver aat the moment
what is the probability to get upgraded to Business through award request?

Thank you in advance

 

[Steady]

Hi All

Travelling on the 21 Jan QF 42
I am a silver aat the moment
what is the probability to get upgraded to Business through award request?

Thank you in advance

Hi @nicky286, the departure and arrival ports are needed to look up the loadings

 

[nicky286]

Hi @nicky286, the departure and arrival ports are needed to look up the loadings

Do apologise departing on the 21 Jan From Jakarta to Sydney. Flight Qantas 42

 

[serfty]

Do apologise departing on the 21 Jan From Jakarta to Sydney. Flight Qantas 42

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing CGK on 21/01/18 12:00 AM for SYD Flying QF 
                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 42         0      CGK                SYD                332       Unavailable     J6 C6 D6 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 G0
                     21/01/18 7:00 PM   22/01/18 6:10 AM             46% / 52m

 

[nicky286]

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing CGK on 21/01/18 12:00 AM for SYD
Flying QF 


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 42         0      CGK                SYD                332       Unavailable     J6 C6 D6 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 G0
                     21/01/18 7:00 PM   22/01/18 6:10 AM             46% / 52m

1 Connection
GA 438        0      CGK                DPS                738       Unavailable     J8 C9 D5 Y9 B9 M9 K9 N9 Q9 G0 T9 V9 E0 S9 H9 L9
                     21/01/18 7:05 AM   21/01/18 10:10 AM            90% / 9m
QF 44         0      DPS                SYD                73H       Unavailable     J5 C5 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0
                     21/01/18 9:20 PM   22/01/18 6:25 AM             73% / 50m

1 Connection
GA 402        0      CGK                DPS                333       Unavailable     J9 C9 D9 Y9 B9 M9 K9 N9 Q9 G0 T9 V9 E0 S9 H9 L6
                     21/01/18 7:45 AM   21/01/18 10:45 AM            81% / 17m
QF 44         0      DPS                SYD                73H       Unavailable     J5 C5 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0
                     21/01/18 9:20 PM   22/01/18 6:25 AM             73% / 50m

1 Connection
QF 5202       0      CGK                SIN                320       Unavailable     Y9 B9 H9 K9
                     21/01/18 9:15 AM   21/01/18 12:05 PM            84% / 12m
QF 82         0      SIN                SYD                332       Unavailable     J0 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0
                     21/01/18 7:15 PM   22/01/18 6:10 AM             59% / 24m

1 Connection
QF 5202       0      CGK                SIN                320       Unavailable     Y9 B9 H9 K9
                     21/01/18 9:15 AM   21/01/18 12:05 PM            84% / 12m
QF 6          0      SIN                SYD                332       Unavailable     J7 C5 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K1 M0 L0 G0
                     21/01/18 11:40 PM  22/01/18 10:40 AM            76% / 38m

1 Connection
QF 4272       0      CGK                SIN                320       Unavailable     Y9 B9 H9 K9 G9
                     21/01/18 4:35 PM   21/01/18 7:25 PM             61% / 34m
QF 6          0      SIN                SYD                332       Unavailable     J7 C5 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K1 M0 L0 G0
                     21/01/18 11:40 PM  22/01/18 10:40 AM            76% / 38m

J6 C6 D6

Nice is it mean I have a high probablity to get upgraded?

 

[bosox76]

Chances are reasonable ...
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing MEL on 21/01/18 12:00 AM for LHR, Flying QF

                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 9          1      MEL                LHR                388       Unavailable     F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I9 W5 R3 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0
                     21/01/18 11:25 PM  22/01/18 12:40 PM            NA / NA

Thanks Serfty. Much appreciated.

 

[OATEK]

J6 C6 D6

Nice is it mean I have a high probablity to get upgraded?

D and/or I availability are good pointers. As always depends on the status levels of those you might be competing with. Lets say a Fair chance rather than High.

 

[serfty]

J6 C6 D6

Nice is it mean I have a high probablity to get upgraded?

D and/or I availability are good pointers. As always depends on the status levels of those you might be competing with. Lets say a Fair chance rather than High.

Looking at those loadings for business and given the flight is just a few days away, I am thinking the flight is very sold in economy-with no deep discount economy seats for sale. The YBHKL available may actually be an effort to sell some of the business seats.

 

[liamg]

Hi all,

If someone can look this up and offer an analysis I’d appreciate it.

I (Gold) upgraded my mum (Bronze) on QF12 LAX-SYD departing Sunday 21 January.

Thanks!

 

[pjm99au]

Looks pretty full. Depends if the higher status upgrades have gone through yet.

QF 12 LAX 10:30p → SYD 8:30a
F2 A0 J4 C2 D1 I0 W5 R2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0 E9

 

[bosox76]

Chances are reasonable ...
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing MEL on 21/01/18 12:00 AM for LHR, Flying QF

                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 9          1      MEL                LHR                388       Unavailable     F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I9 W5 R3 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0
                     21/01/18 11:25 PM  22/01/18 12:40 PM            NA / NA

The upgrade fairy did indeed smile upon us. Thanks again.