First Qantas A220 revealed

[RooFlyer]

What will be interesting is to see what routes they plan to use this on.

They've said. Look it up. This particular plane initially Melbourne-Canberra run.

They are being decidedly coy on the interior. Unless they want the current splash to die down a bit, then go for a second helping.

 

[oz_mark]

What will be interesting is to see what routes they plan to use this on. Certainly the C Series has the range to do SYD > PER comfortably, but I wonder too if it will open up routes where there is demand, but not enough demand to warrant an 737. For instance, Sydney to Port Hedland, Broome to Melbourne or Hobart to Darwin.

Initially Melbourne - Canberra, and then other routes you currently see the 717s on.

• The A220s will mostly connect smaller capital cities like Canberra and Hobart, with our major hubs in Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

and finally

• new domestic and short-haul international routes as more aircraft enter the fleet.

I think it will be a while before any route expanison happens.

 

[mannej]

Seeing that the 737 fleet without seat back IFE do pop up on the longer routes domestically, is it really such an issue if the 220’s are fitted with streamed IFE only?

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Initially Melbourne - Canberra, and then other routes you currently see the 717s on.

• The A220s will mostly connect smaller capital cities like Canberra and Hobart, with our major hubs in Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

I think there will be many proud Tasmanians who are awaiting the arrival of these aircraft on these routes. For once Qantas has provided them with a modicum of decency by providing modern airplanes that are larger than a lil puddle jumper. Now if they can spruce up that lounge at HBA!

 

[Quickstatus]

Having flown on the Bombardier C Series (or as some on this forum would call it the A220),

Well not just some on this forum. Airbus, and I would think most in the industry, including all the airlines buying them is/are calling it the A220. Bombardier no longer has an interest in the aircraft

 

[RooFlyer]

@Quickstatus - avatar issue solved!

 

[clifford]

I'm just concerned it's QantasLink, rather than Qantas.

Just more outsourcing.

 

[p--and--t]

I love it.

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm just concerned it's QantasLink, rather than Qantas.

Just more outsourcing.

It's not really "more" if the current batch of 717 operaters move to also operating the 220. I'm not too sure what the issue is. Indeed QF bought out NJS in 2020, so it actually is now more or less inhouse. So not outsourced at all.

 

[Himeno]

Well not just some on this forum. Airbus, and I would think most in the industry, including all the airlines buying them is/are calling it the A220. Bombardier no longer has an interest in the aircraft

The IATA code for the aircraft are based on the Airbus name (221 and 223). The ICAO codes are based on the Bombardier name (BCS1, BCS3), as such they show up in ATC systems with the Bombardier coding.

 

[Traveller X]

will they bring the cabin dividers back for J class on narrow body aircrafts?

 

[Quickstatus]

The ICAO codes are based on the Bombardier name

Thanks. But most in the industry will refer to it as the Airbus A220. There is no chance that anyone will refer to it as a bombardier in a customer facing setting

 

[moa999]

Seeing that the 737 fleet without seat back IFE do pop up on the longer routes domestically, is it really such an issue if the 220’s are fitted with streamed IFE only?

Personally not these days given almost everyone has a phone or tablet that they can use.

And as we've seen before with the 747s and 330s 10yo seatback IFE isn't exactly great.

 

[TheInsider]

I'm just concerned it's QantasLink, rather than Qantas.

Just more outsourcing.

Tbh it's the same outsourcing that already is there. It's operated by NJS, who currently operates the 717s.

 

[encryptededdy]

will they bring the cabin dividers back for J class on narrow body aircrafts?

It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the 717s already have cabin dividers?

 

[jrfsp]

Tbh it's the same outsourcing that already is there. It's operated by NJS, who currently operates the 717s.

Until they start to replace 737s

 

[Traveller X]

It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the 717s already have cabin dividers?

I don't think there is when I flew back in 2021. I mean the actual class divider curtain, which can be pulled out to the aisle.

 

[RichardMEL]

Until they start to replace 737s

While QF probably would love JitConnect to fly domestic AU routes, pretty sure that's a non starter. QF mainline will operate the 320/321's.

 

[clifford]

Tbh it's the same outsourcing that already is there. It's operated by NJS, who currently operates the 717s.

Yes, I know, and I'm not really impressed with it. Why can't Qantas just run these things themselves? (Oh, couldn't be cost, could it?)

I flew an E190 of Alliance last week ADL-CBR in biz class, and it was OK, but it wasn't Qantas (is that a good or bad thing - depends on the crew I guess?).

 

[RooFlyer]

Yes, I know, and I'm not really impressed with it. Why can't Qantas just run these things themselves? (Oh, couldn't be cost, could it?)

Flying out of Hobart, whenever its Qantas, its nearly always QantasLink. And I'm perfectly happy with that/them. I'm really looking forward to the A220s as I slide my backside back into QF (QFL) upholstery.

But I do join your wonder why they keep the distinction up. I know there is ownership and licencing history but can't see it. Unless (as you speculated) - its cost. Maybe QantasLink employees have historically been on poorer wage agreements and it suits the company to keep it up?