First Class status credit earn is so pathetic - why?

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maninblack

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540 SC's for a MEL-LAX-MEL in F at a cost of over $15,000
160 SC's for MEL-OOL via SYD in J at a cost of $1,200

15,000/1,200 = 12.5
12.5 X 160 = 2000 SC's

Bad deal in F :confused::(:eek::shock:
 

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It means whatever Qantas want it to mean (QED*)

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It has always been thus for revenue fares. The SC earning structure versus cost equation was one of the the things that made mJASA and mFASA such a great deal!
 
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540 SC's for a MEL-LAX-MEL in F at a cost of over $15,000
160 SC's for MEL-OOL via SYD in J at a cost of $1,200

15,000/1,200 = 12.5
12.5 X 160 = 2000 SC's

Bad deal in F :confused::(:eek::shock:
But so much more fun to fly F to Lax than J to OOL. :). I don't think long haul pointy end has ever been that great for SC although USA has to be the worst. Haven't done the maths but F to Europe (particularly with an F sale fare ) would work out a bit better.
 

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The SC earn for MEL/SYD/BNE will always reflect the fact that there are two flights. $1200 cost in Business could reflect yield management for current holiday period.
A different, maybe more realistic comparison, would be MEL/BNE, currently showing a return fare of $1900, but with only 60 SC.
It could also be argued that you need to take points into account. Points earn MEL/LAX/MEL would be far greater, than the domestic route.
Life wasn't meant to be fair. ;)
 

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When or if QFF moves to a purely revenue based status programme, your complaint will be validated.

And, we will also all come after you with pitchforks, too.
 

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All of the above discussion is why first class on AA was (and actually still is) such a good deal.

Jun 2014 east coast - DFW - west coast 240SC for less than USD600. Now 180SC unless using BOS and/or SEA but the overall costs seem to have gone up as well.

Wander around a while as you look for SC

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The answer is simple. People who fly F all the time, really don't need to worry about status :)
 

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It has always been thus for revenue fares. The SC earning structure versus cost equation was one of the the things that made mJASA and mFASA such a great deal!

And that's one reason why they got the @rse.
 

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The answer is simple. People who fly F all the time, really don't need to worry about status :)

Essentially true in that you don't choose to fly in F for the SC earn. One guy I know always travels in F, does at least 4 overseas trips a year and isn't a member of a ff program! But I'll still take the SC's and would like the F rate to be a better reflection of the cost.
 

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Exactly - so why not bump the SC earning up to be more reflective of the ticket value?

Flippancy aside (my original comment was a little flippant), I have a theory that SC earn on QF has been designed not necessarily to reflect revenue but profitability. Just because QF may charge 1.5-2x J price for F, doesn't mean they are making 1.5-2x profit. There are more costs involved, more staff and don't forget that F seats take up more floor space.
 

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This has always been the case. Nothing to do with recent changes.

Love the suggestions for revenue based models. SQ PPS anyone?
 

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Love the suggestions for revenue based models. SQ PPS anyone?

Makes sense to me and would be much fairer to those who purchase high value fares but don't get the comensurate reward in status. PPS has also got a reserve value component so extra spend is not lost. At the moment you can spend $30-40k on two MEL-LAX returns in F and not make WP but someone spending half that much on selective runs can make it with ease. As always YMMV.
 
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