Final flights for the B767

[blackcat20]

Haven't been on one in quite some time so I'm looking forward to it. My last flight was SYD-MEL due to a QF108-QF94 misconnect. I was so far down the back that apparently my mum wondered if I'd actually made the flight. :shock:

 

[power71]

Sad to see them go - not however sad to see the end of those awful bloody iPads that are more trouble than they're worth. FA's running around often trying to find ones that haven't ceased up, and headsets which do little to hear movies/shows properly. Please RED ROO, can you ensure one of the B767's are offered to the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach!

 

[docjames]

Sad to see them go - not however sad to see the end of those awful bloody iPads that are more trouble than they're worth. FA's running around often trying to find ones that haven't ceased up, and headsets which do little to hear movies/shows properly. Please RED ROO, can you ensure one of the B767's are offered to the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach!

I tried to hand one to the FA the other day (take this as it's stuffed - "video won't play as your video player needs an update" or something like that), and the FA didn't want to know about it.

 

[VHOEJ]

Sad to see them go - not however sad to see the end of those awful bloody iPads that are more trouble than they're worth.

Agree - everytime I get in my seat, most of the time the Ipad is out of battery (even for morning services) and even when you find something, you can't hear anything because the headphones are rubbish and the Ipad volume doesn't go very high

 

[samh004]

Sad to see them go - not however sad to see the end of those awful bloody iPads that are more trouble than they're worth. FA's running around often trying to find ones that haven't ceased up, and headsets which do little to hear movies/shows properly. Please RED ROO, can you ensure one of the B767's are offered to the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach!

What they need more so is help getting a roof over the existing displays. They have a great deal of land, but pretty soon it's just going to be a cluttered mess. Goodness knows where they intend to park the Connie, let alone a B767. Other than protecting their displays, I think they're mainly focused on milestone aircraft, of which I wouldn't imagine the B767 was one?

Catalina - "Connie" - B707 - B747 - who knows what's next...

To get back on topic, having finally watched the 60 Minutes piece I am considering joining if I can get a good deal.

 

[Kefci2000]

What they need more so is help getting a roof over the existing displays. They have a great deal of land, but pretty soon it's just going to be a cluttered mess. Goodness knows where they intend to park the Connie, let alone a B767. Other than protecting their displays, I think they're mainly focused on milestone aircraft, of which I wouldn't imagine the B767 was one?

Catalina - "Connie" - B707 - B747 - who knows what's next...

To get back on topic, having finally watched the 60 Minutes piece I am considering joining if I can get a good deal.

ah the memories of the BOAC B707 with the 4 engines

 

[JohnPhelan]

Other than protecting their displays, I think they're mainly focused on milestone aircraft, of which I wouldn't imagine the B767 was one?

First widebody used on domestic routes? That's a milestone. (Though to be fair, was on AN at the time, entered QF service some years later).

First two engine jet used on international services, also.

 

[mannej]

First widebody used on domestic routes? That's a milestone. (Though to be fair, was on AN at the time, entered QF service some years later).

First two engine jet used on international services, also.

When was the A300 introduced domestically?

 

[eminere]

When was the A300 introduced domestically?

Dunno the first commercial flight date but the A300s were delivered to QF on 31 October 1993.

 

[mannej]

Dunno the first commercial flight date but the A300s were delivered to QF on 31 October 1993.

I have a feeling QF inherited them from TAA.

 

[eminere]

I have a feeling QF inherited them from TAA.

They did belong to TAA once upon a time.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I have a feeling QF inherited them from TAA.

They were.

Also the 767 is significant to QF from when they were Australia's international carrier and had a widebody fleet consisting of only 747s and 767s

 

[MEL_Traveller]

They were.

Also the 767 is significant to QF from when they were Australia's international carrier and had a widebody fleet consisting of only 747s and 767s

I think the introduction of the 767 (while necessary) was perhaps a bit of a downgrade rather than enhancement for the QF fleet.

prior to the introduction of the 767 QF was the world's only all 747 fleet!

 

[harvyk]

Sad to see them go - not however sad to see the end of those awful bloody iPads that are more trouble than they're worth. FA's running around often trying to find ones that haven't ceased up, and headsets which do little to hear movies/shows properly. Please RED ROO, can you ensure one of the B767's are offered to the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach!

Yeah, not a fan of the iPads at all either. Give me a proper AVOD system any day of the week...

I don't know if the B767 is really iconic enough for the QF museum. They where bought in in the mid 80's to help compete on TT routes, and despite their prevalence on golden triangle routes they are not really iconic. They've never been a flagship, they've always been given hand me down tech / cut down tech, and whilst they where the SYD-MEL workhorse that was pretty much the only route which they owned. Every other route they where flying alongside B737's / B747's / A330's.

This is not to say I won't miss them when they are gone.

 

[straitman]

I think they're mainly focused on milestone aircraft, of which I wouldn't imagine the B767 was one?

On the world stage the 767 was very much a milestone a/c in many ways including being the first certified by the FAA for 2 pilot ops without flight engineer. From a project management perspective the whole 767 development was a milestone.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

On the world stage the 767 was very much a milestone a/c in many ways including being the first certified by the FAA for 2 pilot ops without flight engineer. From a project management perspective the whole 767 development was a milestone.

Oh! I thought that honour went to the A300 for two man operation without flight engineer? (Don't know about when the FAA as opposed to European authorities authorised it however.)

 

[harvyk]

Oh! I thought that honour went to the A300 for two man operation without flight engineer? (Don't know about when the FAA as opposed to European authorities authorised it however.)

AFAIK A300 had a flight engineer... Where the A300 was special was it was the first wide bodied twin.
The B767 might have been special on a world stage, but does that translate into something which was special for QF and thus worthy of a plane been permanently kept?

 

[straitman]

Oh! I thought that honour went to the A300 for two man operation without flight engineer? (Don't know about when the FAA as opposed to European authorities authorised it however.)

The first (approx) dozen 767s were actually built for a 3 man flight crew and it was only during production that approval was given for 2 man flight crew. Most a/c were retrofitted back to 2 seats upfront with the exception of the Ansett* a/c which were delivered in the original 3 crew configuration.

--If you want more detail I will have to look up my notes as my poor old memory is fading a little :!:

* Something else that Ansett got wrong although it was actually due to union demands rather than the airline preference.

The B767 might have been special on a world stage, but does that translate into something which was special for QF and thus worthy of a plane been permanently kept?

It was and still is the only long haul twin in the Qantas fleet.

 

[harvyk]

It was and still is the only long haul twin in the Qantas fleet.

What about the A330's? They have a longer range than the B767's....

 

[straitman]

What about the A330's? They have a longer range than the B767's....

Oops. I forgot about them. (only twin Boeing long haul)