Filming takeoffs and landings

[Smackbum]

You take an aisle seat because it suits you to be able to get up and down. some people take a window seat because it suits them to look out the window. You want to look out the window that badly take a window seat.

Hmmm..... there seems to be communal blind spot about this that is worrying. The window is not for the sole and exclusive use of the person sitting closest to it, just like the aisle is not for the sole and exclusive use of the person sitting next to it. Both are shared assets. Nobody owns them. You don't even own your seat if the cabin crew decide they need to use it for another pax. A plane is just another form of public transport, as I've heard being mentioned before.

You may choose a window seat because you don't like to let other people past you, or because you like to sleep, or you want the best view out the window. BUT THE WINDOW DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU AND BLOCKING THE VIEW OF OTHER PASSENGERS IS ARROGANT AND RUDE.

On the rare occasions when I find myself in a window seat I am very conscious of my travelling companions desire to check out the view, particularly during takeoffs and landings. I will continue to do so rather than be a prat.

Seriously , listen to yourself.

 

[medhead]

Hmmm..... there seems to be communal blind spot about this that is worrying. The window is not for the sole and exclusive use of the person sitting closest to it, just like the aisle is not for the sole and exclusive use of the person sitting next to it. Both are shared assets. Nobody owns them. You don't even own your seat if the cabin crew decide they need to use it for another pax. A plane is just another form of public transport, as I've heard being mentioned before.

You may choose a window seat because you don't like to let other people past you, or because you like to sleep, or you want the best view out the window. BUT THE WINDOW DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU AND BLOCKING THE VIEW OF OTHER PASSENGERS IS ARROGANT AND RUDE.

On the rare occasions when I find myself in a window seat I am very conscious of my travelling companions desire to check out the view, particularly during takeoffs and landings. I will continue to do so rather than be a prat.

Seriously , listen to yourself.

So how do i balance your arrogant and rude against your supposed support for people to look at interesting things out the window. what i find arrogant is the assumption that people are going out of their way to block your view. Did you ever stop to think that they are just looking out the window at their leisure as they are able to do because they sat in a window seat. It's not a big consrpiacy to stuff you around, you do realise that don't you. As I said if you don't like it, sit in the window seat yourself.

As for listening to myself - I'm not the one having paranoid delusions about how the people in the window seat are deliberately blocking my view :-|

Ohh and yelling at me isn't going to make me stop thinking that you are being completely unreasonable and unrealistic. Yelling is not going to make me agree with you either.

 

[samh004]

Personally I don’t care about the window seat. I sit near the aisle and hate having to get up so the two by the window can use the toilet every 15 minutes. I will gladly squish my legs into the seat and allow you to squeeze past so I can continue sitting down, and when you insist I get up I’m not happy with you anymore

How did we get on this silly topic, this thread is about filming takeoffs and landings… oh yes… i remember.

I’ll make sure the next time I’m sat by a window I press my face to the plastic and block the awful view for my two seatmates Smackbum.

 

[Smackbum]

I’ll make sure the next time I’m sat by a window I press my face to the plastic and block the awful view for my two seatmates Smackbum.

And I would expect no more from you, Sam.

How did we get on this silly topic, this thread is about filming takeoffs and landings… oh yes… i remember.

It is very hard to keep up, but we got here because I voted to not allow filming of takeoffs and landings because it may be done in a way that is inconsiderate towards other passengers. Personally I like seeing life directly through my eyes rather than someone else's viewfinder, but then what would Leunig have to draw about if we all thought that way!

 

[woolnough04]

I didn't mean to cause trouble between members.Just wanted to know if anyone knew the precise rules on the subject.Sorry about that

 

[tuppaware]

I’ll make sure the next time I’m sat by a window I press my face to the plastic and block the awful view for my two seatmates Smackbum.

Love windows on short flights , but why is the window lower enough to make you bend your head down ??

 

[Gilby]

Yeah, I wanted to film a landing the other day. Such a gorgeous regional airport too - the earth looked so red in the outback.

I took some photos with my new canon eos 450d that would really knock your socks off.

My little sis had her canon powershot a480 along, so we did some comparing in the plane afterwards.

 

[Harry G]

rather amusing this thread..........
at the end of the day, who cares whether you break rules or not or you stick your face into the window so the passneger next to you cant see out......
lets hear from the FA's who sit at the front and back of the plane and laugh at you prats..... yes, the same ones who jump out of their seats and stand there for half a day waiting for the doors to open........... yes......probably the same rule breakers.......
the same ones who will wet their pants when there is a bit of turbulence and they sit there with filled pants and white knuckels........yes, break all the rules you like..... good chance they will leave you on the plane when it goes pear shaped!! and also, lets hear from the guys that work up north on the drilling rigs and are heading home and they have an annoying insignificant prat next to them who wont let them look out the window........ back answer them and yes, your nose WILL be spread across the plastic window.......so noone can see out !!

 

[bossreggie]

Harry G...

Thanks for your input! A tad aggro IMHO.

A lot of us care bout the rules being broken. Especially in an aircraft.

If I ended up getting my nose splattered by a fellow pax... They can look forward to having their finances splattered.

I think it's all about HOW someone is asked to do something.

 

[harvyk]

It's really quite simple... It's the airlines aircraft, and thus it's the airlines rules...

Realistically the airline can come up with any rules they want (provided they are not breaking the laws of the country which they are operating under) and you have no choice but to follow them, even if they don't make sense to you...

Basically everything in aviation is about calculated risk, some airlines feel more comfortable than others in the risks they will take, and there may be reasons which us travelling public (who are not pilot’s \ aircraft engineer’s) will never know or understand.

 

[markis10]

It's really quite simple... It's the airlines aircraft, and thus it's the airlines rules...

Its actually the law, an airline and its employees has the power under the civil Aviation Regulations to ensure the safety of the plane and the discipline of the passengers, its an offence to ignore those punishable under the criminal code:

CIVIL AVIATION REGULATIONS 1988 - REG 224

Pilot in command
(1) For each flight the operator shall designate one pilot to act as pilot in command.

Penalty: 5 penalty units.

(1A) An offence against subregulation (1) is an offence of strict liability.

Note For strict liability , see section 6.1 of the Criminal Code .

(2) A pilot in command of an aircraft is responsible for:

(a) the start, continuation, diversion and end of a flight by the aircraft; and

(b) the operation and safety of the aircraft during flight time; and

(c) the safety of persons and cargo carried on the aircraft; and

(d) the conduct and safety of members of the crew on the aircraft.

(2A) A pilot in command must discharge his or her responsibility under paragraph (2) (a) in accordance with:

(a) any information, instructions or directions, relating to the start, continuation, diversion or end of a flight, that are made available, or issued, under the Act or these regulations; and

(b) if applicable, the operations manual provided by the operator of the aircraft.

(3) The pilot in command shall have final authority as to the disposition of the aircraft while he or she is in command and for the maintenance of discipline by all persons on board.



Sadly correct sentence structure and capitalization for forum posts are not required under law

 

[woolnough04]

just returned from the states and on every aircraft flight attendants stated anything with an on/off switch must be turned off until reaching 10,000 feet

 

[markis10]

just returned from the states and on every aircraft flight attendants stated anything with an on/off switch must be turned off until reaching 10,000 feet

Including the engines and master switch Sorry, had to ask, I think thats not a bad way of defining things to be frank, unless its medical equipment.

 

[woolnough04]

Including the engines and master switch Sorry, had to ask, I think thats not a bad way of defining things to be frank, unless its medical equipment.

Well i guess a plane is just a glider with engines.But yes the request was any electrical device must be in the off position till reaching 10,000 feet.