Fare class for int'l flight? Economy or Discount Economy

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  1. Golf888

    Golf888 Junior Member

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    With this fare basis: YKEE1Y3 in an e-ticket, is that
    discount economy or full economy?
    How to determine that?
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    Thanks
     
  2. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    Y class. Full Economy.

    The key is in the first letter of the booking code.
     
  3. NM

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    The first letter is the fare booking class and that is Y in your case. The other part of the fare code is a specific code that references the fare conditions. The 1Y generally means the fare is valid for 1 year.

    The second letter generally refers to the season for seasonal fares. L is low season, K is shoulder season, and H is high season.

    An RT generally means Round Trip, and OW means One Way fare.

    I believe QF use EE to mean it is an Excursion (must be paid a number of days before travel) fare.

    That fare is considered full economy for both domestic and international flights. I assume this is an international fare basis as they tend to be the seasonal fares.
     
  4. Golf888

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    Thanks a lot for the replies....

    I called Qantas and they told me that the flight Syd-HK-Syd was in fact
    Discount Economy and the fare basis in the E-ticket does not show it....
    Qantas told me to contact travel agent....

    As a test, i did try to do some booking on Q website for that routing
    and even for fully flexible flight, the fare conditions indicate that for Status
    Credits, it is Discount Economy....

    Does that mean for international flights, it is always Discount Economy??
     
  5. Kiwi Flyer

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    For international flights (and QF domestic within NZ) needs to be fare basis "Y" to be considered full economy. All other economy fares are discount economy.

    So there seems to be an inconsistency somewhere

    1) fare basis isnt "Y" but instead something else
    2) QF agent is mistaken re discounted
    3) website isnt showing the same fare basis that you actually booked
    4) the rules have changed
     
  6. Dave Noble

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    There is an option 5

    The fare basis may show on a ticket as Y and the fare basis might show as Yxxxxx, however there could be a tour code associated with the ticket which trumps all

    Dave
     
  7. Kiwi Flyer

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    I thought tour and consolidator fares would not include full econ/biz/first. Is that not the case?

    Similarly the various travel industry fares.
     
  8. NM

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    I would call back and ask again. If the say its discount economy, ask them to tell you what the ticketed fare basis is. Keep asking until they tell you the full fare basis code. If they say YKEE1Y3, then ask why a fare basis starting with Y is not a Y class fare. Then please report back because my understanding is that a YKEE1Y3 fare would be booked in Y.

    In fact, I just looked up this fare type using KVS, and the fare rules clearly state that the booking code is Y. Cost os quoted as A$1664 for SYD-SIN.
     
  9. Golf888

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    Mystery solved i think....

    Inquired with company travel agent and it was booked in B class
    (special fares i am told). The fare basis in the e-ticket is only
    for ticketing and tracking purposes....

    Any have the Fare Rules for B class?
     
  10. NM

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    Depends on which B fare basis was purchased.
     
  11. NM

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    Hmm, KVS is not showing any B fares SYD-HKG-SYD. Only Y, K, R, V, S and N.

    By the way, YRT costs $5688 while YKEE1Y3 costs $2153.
     
  12. Golf888

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    Thanks NM. Not sure of the type of B fare.

    I think must be some code for special fare for
    the company i worked for.
     
  13. NM

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    Having just discussed this with Dave Noble, it seems you may well have a Tour Code fare, which is a special fare (unpublished), and any Tour Code trumps the entry in the Fare Basis field of the ticket.
     
  14. QF WP

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    As I was reading this thread, I was about to type exactly that, NM, until I read your last post.

    Dave Noble informed me about that little trick with my M-i-L's ticket QF BNE/SIN/BNE. It was issued with a tour code that he explained the same way - it trumps that fare basis (as printed on the paper tickets before the baggage allowance).

    Tricks and tips for young players :shock:
     
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