Emirates' superjumbo lands in New York (sic)

[Dave Noble]

Airbus's A380 superjumbo touched down at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport on Friday, marking the first commercial arrival of the giant, double-decker passenger plane on US soil.

The Emirates aircraft, carrying 489 passengers in varying degrees of luxury, landed smoothly and on time after a 13-1/2-hour flight from Dubai.

Full article at Emirates' superjumbo lands in New York - News - Travel - smh.com.au

I always thought that there was only 1 airline called Emirates though

Dave

 

[tuapekastar]

Full article at Emirates' superjumbo lands in New York - News - Travel - smh.com.au

I always thought that there was only 1 airline called Emirates though

Dave

I think that apostrophe is just where it should be!

 

[oz_mark]

I think that apostrophe is just where it should be!

So do I.

The alternative, saying Emirates's jumbo sounds a bit wrong! (style guides vary as to whether to add an extra s or not)

 

[Dave Noble]

I think that apostrophe is just where it should be!

It is in the correct position, just missing the trailing s to make it singular

Regardless, interesting that the EK service is now up n running.

Dave

 

[tuapekastar]

Yup, a couple of firsts there: Commercial A380 flight to US, and EK A380 commercial flight. I think that makes EK 2nd off the rank with A380 commercial flight. I know QF is scheduled soon, will they be No. 3?

(I'm with Mark on the apostrophe...and the absence of trailing s)

 

[ashsta77]

Looks fine to me too.

OTHER EXAMPLES
James' jumbo is huge.
Jesus' friends.

I've noticed many people fail to use the correct their/there in their sentences!

 

[Dave Noble]

Looks fine to me too.

OTHER EXAMPLES
James' jumbo is huge.
Jesus' friends.

Those examples are fine as long as James and jesus are both plurals

s' is used for possessive of a plural ending in s
's is used in other possessive cases

Linus's house ... the house of a person called Linus
The company's accounts.. The accounts of one company
The companies' accounts... The accounts of multiple companies


Dave

 

[oz_mark]

The rules are not so simple. Consider Archimedes' Principle. Clearly Archimedes is the singular, and I have never seen it written Archimedes's Principle.

 

[Dave Noble]

The rules are not so simple. Consider Archimedes' Principle. Clearly Archimedes is the singular, and I have never seen it written Archimedes's Principle.

The rules of grammar are simple; whether they are applied correctly is another matter

I have seen it written as Archimedes Principle , Archimedes' Principle and Archimedes's Principle in various texts

Dave

 

[oz_mark]

In the end it comes down to what the publication styles guide says. For example the Economist (
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) says

Use the ending s' on plurals that end in s—Danes', bosses', Joneses'—including plural names that take a singular verb, eg, Reuters', Barclays', Stewarts & Lloyds', Salomon Brothers'

The United States's president sounds silly.

 

[straitman]

Thanks for the English lessen guys.

 

[codash1099]

The rules of grammar are simple; whether they are applied correctly is another matter

I have seen it written as Archimedes Principle , Archimedes' Principle and Archimedes's Principle in various texts

Dave

I'm not so sure the ancient Greeks used apostrophes.

 

[oz_mark]

Thanks for the English lessen guys.

hehehe. Perhaps we should stick to the A380 arriving in New York?

 

[yo yo ma]

In the end it comes down to what the publication styles guide says.

The News Limited Style Guide 3rd Edition : The Essential Guide for Journalists and Professional Writers (2005):

Almost all singular words ending in s need another s as well as the apostrophe to form the possessive – the princess’s dress, Charles’s books, - but you should follow the sound. If a speaker repeats the s, do so in print. If not, don’t.

Going by this, I would say that since the "s" sound is not repeated in Emirates, then no apostrophe is needed?

 

[NM]

The United States's president sounds silly.

Yes, we know he does sound silly, but ...

I give up arguing about the laws of the English language with Dave. After all, its his language and I am just borrowing it (with apologies to Victor Borge)

 

[straitman]

hehehe. Perhaps we should stick to the A380 arriving in New York?

Dave probably also knows more about that than we do :!:

 

[serfty]

... I always thought that there was only 1 airline called Emirates though ...

There IS the Nub! - in post #1 even.

If "Emirates" is being employed to refer to the possessive of a singular entity, then it's Emirates's.

If we are referring to the Airline of the "UAE", then 'tis Emirates'. (i.e. The Emirates part of "The United Arab Emirates" is plural!)

simple really ...

So in the case the article heading should have been "Emirates's superjumbo lands in New York".

 

[medhead]

The News Limited Style Guide 3rd Edition : The Essential Guide for Journalists and Professional Writers (2005):

Having read news limited's papers I'm not going to accept their style guide. Basically they are saying to write it how the speaker says it. Yep, if we go out to rooty hill we can see how well that's going to work.

I have always been taught that in the case of a word ending with s then there is no second s went indicating the possessive case. Whether the word is plural or singular makes little difference. But I could be wrong.

However, I'd make one slight statement about the example of company and companies.

company doesn't end with s. there is no second s to drop whether it is singular or plural. So company's is correct.

also with James and Jesus aren't these are always singular as they refer to one person. Umm what would the plural be Jameses, Jesuses.....umm James's - but then the ' is indicating the missing e not possession....

Of course Jesus may be a bad example. Didn't he have no worldly possissions?

 

[JohnK]

I'm not so sure the ancient Greeks used apostrophes.

I think you are right even though the word apostrophe has Greek origins prior to the French and Latin.

 

[serfty]

Emirates Sends Sole A380 back to Engineers

Streem / News / Emirates pulls A380 planes

Emirates pulls A380 planes
Published by Streem -- Sep 09, 2008 12:57pm
Updated Sep 09, 2008 4:54pm AEST

Emirates has been forced to stop flying it's mega-jumbo A380 aircraft due to electrical faults aboard the plane.

The Arab Emirates based airline said that engineering delays were causing the problem, however other reports say electrical faults had halted the flights.

Emirates watched it's first Airbus A380 aircraft take-off only a few weeks ago ...