Emergency Qantas landing?

[Flying Fox]

I will be carefull of using the down key in future airborne use of my laptop.

Yes and don't even think about touching the Page Down Key :!:

 

[NM]

Yes and don't even think about touching the Page Down Key :!:

Or the Escape key if sitting in an emergency exit row

But in all seriousness, such an even requires the most thorough investigation that considers all possibilities.

 

[Reggie]

Or the Escape key if sitting in an emergency exit row

And ensure your laptop doesn't crash whilst using it in flight

 

[oz_mark]

And ensure your laptop doesn't crash whilst using it in flight

I was avoiding bringing up the bluescreen.

 

[simongr]

In a new twist, pax using laptops are being questioned.

Laptop probe in Qantas plunge

Q. So what were you doing with your laptop at the time of the incident?

A. I was tapping into the flight control systems and went crazy with my mouse.

Sounds like they are clutching at straws here!

Dear god - have you read the comments???

"Ban all electronic devices from aircraft". Are these people on drugs?

 

[simongr]

I was avoiding bringing up the bluescreen.

Another Mac advantage

 

[Flying Fox]

Dear god - have you read the comments???

"Ban all electronic devices from aircraft". Are these people on drugs?

Posted by: Deborah, ALBURY, on 9/10/2008 1:09:04 PM If mobile phones can cause problems, what really makes them think that laptops are any safer? I agree with everyone else. BAN THEM and every electronic device. If people can't live without their laptop or mobile phone for an hour or so, then they should seek ELECTRONICS ANONYMOUS.

Yes I think Deborah needs to join the rest of the world in this current century. Maybe she wants us to ban watches and pace-makers too since both are electronic devices.

 

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Posted by: Deborah, ALBURY, on 9/10/2008 1:09:04 PM If mobile phones can cause problems, what really makes them think that laptops are any safer? I agree with everyone else. BAN THEM and every electronic device. If people can't live without their laptop or mobile phone for an hour or so, then they should seek ELECTRONICS ANONYMOUS.

Yes I think Deborah needs to join the rest of the world in this current century. Maybe she wants us to ban watches and pace-makers too since both are electronic devices.

I'd sure love to be able to do a PER-SIN-LHR in "an hour or so"

 

[bambbbam2]

I'd sure love to be able to do a PER-SIN-LHR in "an hour or so"

When they setup a Gravity train - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia it will take 42 mins and 12 seconds to anywhere on Earth.

 

[QF WP]

Having had an email from bravoecho this morning, I am looking forward to him sharing what he can, in time.

Captain is a close family friend of mine and I spoke to him yesterday. I am not going to print verbatim what happened however will say that he described a horrific event that no aircrew/passenger ever want to experience.

 

[oz_mark]

Latest release from the ATSB which gives some info on how far and fast the plane descended

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau investigation is progressing.
The aircraft's Flight Data Recorder (FDR) and coughpit Voice Recorder (CVR) arrived in Canberra late on Wednesday evening. Downloading and preliminary analysis overnight has revealed good data from both recorders. Data from the FDR has been provided to Qantas, the French Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses (BEA) and Airbus as parties to the investigation.

While the full interpretation and analysis of the recorded data will take some time, preliminary review of the data indicates that after the aircraft climbed about 200 feet from its cruising level of 37,000 feet, the aircraft then pitched nose-down and descended about 650 feet in about 20 seconds, before returning to the cruising level. This was closely followed by a further nose-down pitch where the aircraft descended about 400 feet in about 16 seconds before returning once again to the cruising level.

Detailed review and analysis of FDR data is ongoing to assist in identifying the reasons for the events.

MEDIA RELEASE : 09 October 2008 - ATSB Airbus investigation update

 

[v8Statesman]

650ft in 20 secs or 32.5 ft a second does not sound like a lot to me. (Looking at the photo's it must be though.)

Far cry from the 10,000 ft reported though

 

[oz_mark]

650ft in 20 secs or 32.5 ft a second does not sound like a lot to me. (Looking at the photo's it must be though.)

Far cry from the 10,000 ft reported though

I think that is three times the normal descent rate (650 sounds about right for a minute of descent, but I am sure other more expert on aviation will correct me!)

 

[v8Statesman]

I think that is three times the normal descent rate (650 sounds about right for a minute of descent, but I am sure other more expert on aviation will correct me!)

At that rate, it would take 56.9 minutes to get to the ground from 37,000 ft. That seems like a long time to me.

 

[oz_mark]

At that rate, it would take 56.9 minutes to get to the ground from 37,000 ft. That seems like a long time to me.

OK - I stand corrected

 

[NM]

Yes I think Deborah needs to join the rest of the world in this current century. Maybe she wants us to ban watches and pace-makers too since both are electronic devices.

And ban the IFE systems. And active noise cancelling headphones, and ....

And see how long she can cope with a cabin full of kids and no PSP, DS, Gameboys etc for a 14 hour flight.

But one problem is that these days many laptops do include transmitting devices, including WiFi, Bluetooth and EVDO/GSM etc wireless transmitters that are essentially phones. If these are not disabled before departure, then they become active as soon as the laptop is switched on.

 

[comint]

But one problem is that these days many laptops do include transmitting devices, including WiFi, Bluetooth and EVDO/GSM etc wireless transmitters ...

Plus some kids' games/toys also have wireless capability. It is not unusual to see children playing against each other wirelessly, while in the air.

 

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Plus some kids' games/toys also have wireless capability. It is not unusual to see children playing against each other wirelessly, while in the air.

My Nintendo DS Lite comes to mind.... and hey, I'm not a child!

 

[Mal]

Fairfax are now reporting the compensation with the angle that "pointy end flyers get more compensation". They then advise how First (hehe) customers get vouchers worth ~$10K whereas Economy pax get vouchers for around $2K.

Gotta love integrity, correctness and honesty in journalism.

 

[oz_mark]

Fairfax are now reporting the compensation with the angle that "pointy end flyers get more compensation". They then advise how First (hehe) customers get vouchers worth ~$10K whereas Economy pax get vouchers for around $2K.

Gotta love integrity, correctness and honesty in journalism.

The voucher was for the equivalent of a return Aust-London trip. Not surprising that it would be higher value for business class passengers.