Eligible flight counted towards status???

[Emkay]

On my activity statement, all the Qantas and Jetstar Jetflex flights have a ~ symbol against the status credits. The footnote says

~ Eligible flight (Qantas, QantasLink or Jetstar segment) counted towards status attain/retain.

But the flights on other OneWorld airlines (Cathay, British, Dragonair) do not show the ~ symbol, even though they do show a number of status credits earned, and these status credits appear to be reflected in the calculated number of SC required to attain platinum .

As I am in the verge of first attaining platinum, I am quite keen to know whether the other airline SCs are really going to count!

Can anyone advise on this? I can't find it in past threads - apologies if it's there somewhere.

 

[Mal]

Hi.

All eligible flights on OneWorld airlines count towards status.

However Qantas requires 4 eligible flights on Qantas/Jetstar per year to earn/retain status. Jetstar/Qantas flights are marked with the ~.

So if you didn't fly 4 flights with Qantas/Jetstar that earned SC's, you would not be promoted to a higher Frequent Flyer tier - regardless of how many other SC's you earned.

 

[Emkay]

Thanks Mal!

I knew about the four QF/JQ flights rule, but didn't realise this is what they are tracking with the ~

All makes perfect sense now - and I will make Platinum in January!! A Global Explorer J excursion earlier this year helped a lot.

Rgds, Emkay

 

[MelUser]

Does anyone remember that QF were going to change this rule to 4 QF operated and marketed flights per membership year?

This change seems to have disappeared from the rules - ie it seems to have remained at a minimum of 4 QF flight numbers (irespective of the operating carrier).

Do others remember this change that was coming but now seems to have disappeared?

 

[oz_mark]

Does anyone remember that QF were going to change this rule to 4 QF operated and marketed flights per membership year?

This change seems to have disappeared from the rules - ie it seems to have remained at a minimum of 4 QF flight numbers (irespective of the operating carrier).

Do others remember this change that was coming but now seems to have disappeared?

The rules changed on January 1.

Before Jan 1, 2009

The travel required in each Membership Year to attain or retain Silver, Gold or Platinum status level must include a minimum of four Eligible Flight Segments on Qantas, QantasLink or Jetstar.

From Jan 1, 2009

The travel required in each Membership Year to attain or retain Silver, Gold or Platinum status level must include a minimum of four Eligible Flight Segments where Qantas, QantasLink or a Jetstar Airline is the Marketing Carrier.

 

[Dave Noble]

I didn't think that they were changing their intent, just making it less ambiguous

prior to the change, one could argue that an AA codeshare on QF would count since it would be an eligable flight on Qantas as well as argue , if needed, that any QF marketed flight should count

It did not state explicitly, iirc, that there was a need for it to be both marketed by and operated by QF/JQ

Dave

 

[MelUser]

Does this mean that Oz Mark's post has it the wrong way around?

 

[Dave Noble]

Does this mean that Oz Mark's post has it the wrong way around?

Not the wrong way round

In neither of the wordings does it state that QF (or JQ) has to be both the marketing and operating carrier to be eligable

Dave

 

[MelUser]

So please forgive my confusion with this - I am normally sharper!

Does this mean that any "QF" number flight irrespective of who actually operates it (ie the metal of the aircraft) now counts towards the 4 required flights per QF membership year?

 

[Dave Noble]

So please forgive my confusion with this - I am normally sharper!

Does this mean that any "QF" number flight irrespective of who actually operates it (ie the metal of the aircraft) now counts towards the 4 required flights per QF membership year?

yes

Dave

 

[djfuzz]

How does this impact tier progression?

Is it the case that, regardless of the status points you have accrued, you will not progress up a tier until you have the four qualifying segments?

And if so, does that mean that, for example, if you have over 700/1400 SCs before you get the four qualifying segments that you will go straight to Gold/Platinum once the qualifying segments requirement is satisfied?

 

[Dave Noble]

How does this impact tier progression?

Is it the case that, regardless of the status points you have accrued, you will not progress up a tier until you have the four qualifying segments?

And if so, does that mean that, for example, if you have over 700/1400 SCs before you get the four qualifying segments that you will go straight to Gold/Platinum once the qualifying segments requirement is satisfied?

Yes and Yes

Dave

 

[straitman]

How does this impact tier progression?

Is it the case that, regardless of the status points you have accrued, you will not progress up a tier until you have the four qualifying segments?

Yes

And if so, does that mean that, for example, if you have over 700/1400 SCs before you get the four qualifying segments that you will go straight to Gold/Platinum once the qualifying segments requirement is satisfied?

Yes. This is also the case in reverse.

 

[serfty]

... Does this mean that any "QF" number flight irrespective of who actually operates it (ie the metal of the aircraft) now counts towards the 4 required flights per QF membership year?

Yes, eligible¹ flights with QF² or JQ³ flight number will count, irrespective of the actual operating carrier.

¹Point/SC earning
²Qantas and QantasLink
³Jetstar

 

[straitman]

yes yes yes

That's unanimous then :!:

 

[oz_mark]

So please forgive my confusion with this - I am normally sharper!

Does this mean that any "QF" number flight irrespective of who actually operates it (ie the metal of the aircraft) now counts towards the 4 required flights per QF membership year?

You could have argued under the old rules that if QF was the operating carrier or the marketing carrier that it should count. The new rules clarify that it applies when QF is the marketing carrier.