DONE4 help please. (One World RTW)

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v8Statesman

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Ok Here is my next draft correcting errors as pointed out in this group.

Sorry for the Cut/Paste. I am on my way to a meeting and I wanted to get it up so I can get some comments. I am traveling West arount the world, hoever SIN-HKG-ALK my be considered east. Will that be a problem?

Round the World Planner Itinerary Details - SJNDone4
4/06/2006 Through 13/08/2006
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Total City Count: 23
Total Sector Count: 22
Total Region Count: 4
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City: Sydney, NS, Australia (Kingsford Smith)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: SYD - Sydney, NS, Australia (Kingsford Smith)
Arrive: SIN - Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Leg 1:
Depart: SYD 3:50p 4/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: SIN 9:40p 4/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Flight: QF 5 - Qantas Airways
744 - Boeing 747-400 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 7 hours 50 minutes

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City: Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: SIN - Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Arrive: LHR - London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Leg 1:
Depart: SIN 10:55p 5/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: LHR 5:30a 6/06/2006 Terminal: 4
Flight: QF 9 - Qantas Airways
744 - Boeing 747-400 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 13 hours 35 minutes

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City: London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: LHR - London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Arrive: ATH - Athens, Greece (Eleftherios Venizelos)
Leg 1:
Depart: LHR 8:20a 5/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: ATH 1:55p 5/06/2006
Flight: BA 640 - British Airways
320 - Airbus Industrie A320
Operating Carrier: British Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 35 minutes

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City: Athens, Greece (Eleftherios Venizelos)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: ATH - Athens, Greece (Eleftherios Venizelos)
Arrive: LHR - London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Leg 1:
Depart: ATH 7:00p 6/06/2006
Arrive: LHR 9:05p 6/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Flight: BA 633 - British Airways
767 - Boeing 767 Passenger
Operating Carrier: British Airways
Total Duration: 4 hours 5 minutes

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City: London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Sectors: 1
*** No Flight Details ***

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City: London, EN, United Kingdom (Gatwick)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: LGW - London, EN, United Kingdom (Gatwick)
Arrive: VAR - Varna, Bulgaria (Varna)
Leg 1:
Depart: LGW 3:05p 7/06/2006 Terminal: N
Arrive: VAR 8:30p 7/06/2006
Flight: BA 2860 - British Airways
737 - Boeing 737 Passenger
Operating Carrier: British Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 25 minutes

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City: Varna, Bulgaria (Varna)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: VAR - Varna, Bulgaria (Varna)
Arrive: LGW - London, EN, United Kingdom (Gatwick)
Leg 1:
Depart: VAR 9:15p 10/06/2006
Arrive: LGW 10:50p 10/06/2006 Terminal: N
Flight: BA 2861 - British Airways
737 - Boeing 737 Passenger
Operating Carrier: British Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 35 minutes

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City: London, EN, United Kingdom (Gatwick)
Sectors: 1
*** No Flight Details ***

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City: London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: LHR - London, EN, United Kingdom (Heathrow)
Arrive: LAX - Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Leg 1:
Depart: LHR 4:05p 18/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: LAX 7:05p 18/06/2006 Terminal: B
Flight: BA 269 - British Airways
744 - Boeing 747-400 Passenger
Operating Carrier: British Airways
Total Duration: 11 hours 0 minutes

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City: Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: LAX - Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Arrive: ORD - Chicago, IL, United States (O'Hare)
Leg 1:
Depart: LAX 11:10p 18/06/2006 Terminal: 4
Arrive: ORD 5:05a 19/06/2006 Terminal: 3
Flight: AA 1264 - American Airlines
757 - Boeing 757 Passenger
Operating Carrier: American Airlines
Total Duration: 3 hours 55 minutes

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City: Chicago, IL, United States (O'Hare)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: ORD - Chicago, IL, United States (O'Hare)
Arrive: MSP - Minneapolis, MN, United States (St Paul)
Leg 1:
Depart: ORD 6:39a 19/06/2006 Terminal: 3
Arrive: MSP 8:02a 19/06/2006 Terminal: L
Flight: AA 1755 - American Airlines
M83 - Boeing (Douglas) MD-83
Operating Carrier: American Airlines
Total Duration: 1 hours 23 minutes

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City: Minneapolis, MN, United States (St Paul)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: MSP - Minneapolis, MN, United States (St Paul)
Arrive: DFW - Dallas, TX, United States (Dallas/Ft. Worth)
Leg 1:
Depart: MSP 6:18a 23/06/2006 Terminal: L
Arrive: DFW 8:41a 23/06/2006
Flight: AA 1279 - American Airlines
M83 - Boeing (Douglas) MD-83
Operating Carrier: American Airlines
Total Duration: 2 hours 23 minutes

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City: Dallas, TX, United States (Dallas/Ft. Worth)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: DFW - Dallas, TX, United States (Dallas/Ft. Worth)
Arrive: JFK - New York, NY, United States (John F. Kennedy)
Leg 1:
Depart: DFW 10:46a 23/06/2006
Arrive: JFK 3:21p 23/06/2006 Terminal: 9
Flight: AA 492 - American Airlines
763 - Boeing 767-300 Passenger
Operating Carrier: American Airlines
Total Duration: 3 hours 35 minutes

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City: New York, NY, United States (John F. Kennedy)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: JFK - New York, NY, United States (John F. Kennedy)
Arrive: LAX - Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Leg 1:
Depart: JFK 7:00p 24/06/2006 Terminal: 9
Arrive: LAX 10:13p 24/06/2006 Terminal: 4
Flight: AA 185 - American Airlines
762 - Boeing 767-200 Passenger
Operating Carrier: American Airlines
Total Duration: 6 hours 13 minutes

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City: Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: LAX - Los Angeles, CA, United States (Los Angeles)
Arrive: HKG - Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Leg 1:
Depart: LAX 1:55a 25/06/2006 Terminal: B
Arrive: HKG 7:35a 26/06/2006
Flight: CX 881 - Cathay Pacific Airways
744 - Boeing 747-400 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Cathay Pacific Airways
Total Duration: 14 hours 40 minutes

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City: Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: HKG - Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Arrive: SIN - Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Leg 1:
Depart: HKG 8:55a 26/06/2006
Arrive: SIN 12:25p 26/06/2006 Terminal: 1
Flight: CX 717 - Cathay Pacific Airways
773 - Boeing 777-300 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Cathay Pacific Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 30 minutes

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City: Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: SIN - Singapore, Singapore (Changi)
Arrive: HKG - Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Leg 1:
Depart: SIN 4:05p 3/08/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: HKG 7:55p 3/08/2006
Flight: CX 734 - Cathay Pacific Airways
330 - Airbus Industrie A330
Operating Carrier: Cathay Pacific Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 50 minutes

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City: Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: HKG - Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Hong Kong)
Arrive: AKL - Auckland, New Zealand (Auckland)
Leg 1:
Depart: HKG 8:55p 3/08/2006
Arrive: AKL 11:45a 4/08/2006
Flight: CX 107 - Cathay Pacific Airways
343 - Airbus Industrie A340-300
Operating Carrier: Cathay Pacific Airways
Total Duration: 10 hours 50 minutes

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City: Auckland, New Zealand (Auckland)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: AKL - Auckland, New Zealand (Auckland)
Arrive: ZQN - Queenstown, New Zealand (Frankton)
Leg 1:
Depart: AKL 7:05a 5/08/2006 Terminal: D
Arrive: ZQN 9:45a 5/08/2006
Flight: QF 4103 - Qantas Airways
733 - Boeing 737-300 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 2 hours 40 minutes

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City: Queenstown, New Zealand (Frankton)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: ZQN - Queenstown, New Zealand (Frankton)
Arrive: BNE - Brisbane, QL, Australia (Brisbane)
Leg 1:
Depart: ZQN 3:25p 12/08/2006
Arrive: BNE 5:10p 12/08/2006 Terminal: I
Flight: QF 254 - Qantas Airways
73H - Boeing 737-800 (winglets) Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 45 minutes

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City: Brisbane, QL, Australia (Brisbane)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: BNE - Brisbane, QL, Australia (Brisbane)
Arrive: ADL - Adelaide, SA, Australia (Adelaide)
Leg 1:
Depart: BNE 8:20a 13/08/2006 Terminal: D
Arrive: ADL 10:40a 13/08/2006 Terminal: 1
Flight: QF 661 - Qantas Airways
734 - Boeing 737-400 Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 2 hours 50 minutes

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City: Adelaide, SA, Australia (Adelaide)
Sectors: 1
Flight details
Depart: ADL - Adelaide, SA, Australia (Adelaide)
Arrive: PER - Perth, WA, Australia (Perth)
Leg 1:
Depart: ADL 4:45p 13/08/2006 Terminal: 1
Arrive: PER 6:40p 13/08/2006 Terminal: 2
Flight: QF 595 - Qantas Airways
73H - Boeing 737-800 (winglets) Passenger
Operating Carrier: Qantas Airways
Total Duration: 3 hours 25 minutes

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City: Perth, WA, Australia (Perth)
Sectors: 0

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You cannot do both LHR-ATH-LHR and LGW-VAR. See this rule restriction:
Code:
    NOTE 1: NO MORE THAN 2 FREE SEGMENTS BETWEEN THE                      
    U.K. AND:                                                             
                                                                     
      ALGERIA  ARMENIA  AZERBAIJAN  BAHRAIN  BULGARIA
      CYPRUS  EGYPT  GEORGIA  GREECE  IRAN  ISRAEL  JORDAN
      KUWAIT  LEBANON  MACEDONIA  MALTA  MOROCCO  MONTENEGRO  OMAN
      FUNCHAL QATAR ROMANIA RUSSIA SAUDI ARABIA
      SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC  PORTUGAL  TUNISIA  UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
      UKRAINE  YUGOSLAVIA  SERBIA - CROATIA
Since BA is the only OW airline that flies to/from VAR, you can't even ude AY via HEL or IB via MAD/BCN as can be an option for some of the restricted countries.
 

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Unlike some other RTWs, on an xONEx there is no backtracking restriction per se. However there may only be one trans-atlantic and one trans-pacifc crossing and also only one crossing between (europe/africa) and (asia/southwest pacific).

So SIN-HKG-AKL is fine.
 

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serfty said:
That's the oneWORLD Planner© for you... :rolleyes:

I haven't used that tool, but the *A RTW Mileage Calculator tool is also a bit buggy - indeed there is a thread on FT devoted to known bugs of that tool.
 

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OK, I am hoping I have nailed it now. Can anyone see a problem?

Is there a easy way or working out the QF SC earn on this?

____________________________
*********RTW DONE4*********
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04/06
QF5 SYD SIN 15:50 21:40
QF9 SIN LHR 22:55 05:15 +1
Proposed Europe
07/06
BA2860 LGW VAR 15:05 20:30
10/06
BA2861 VAR LGW 21:15 22:50
12/06
BA2790 LGW KEF 07:30 09:45
14/06
BA2791 KEF LGW 10:30 14:35

18/06
BA0269 LHR LAX 16:05 19:05
AA1264 LAX ORD 23:10 05:05 +1
19/06
AA1755 ORD MSP 06:39 08:02
23/06
AA1279 MSP DFW 06:18 08:41
AA492 DFW JFK 10:46 15:21
24/06
AA185 JFK LAX 21:00 22:13
25/06
AA6119 LAX HKG 01:55 07:35 +1 *Must be AA Code share not CX!
26/06
CX717 HKG SIN 08:55 12:25
03/08
CX734 SIN HKG 16:05 19:55
CX107 HKG AKL 20:55 11:45 +1
12/08
QF254 ZQN BNE 15:25 17:10
13/08
QF605 BNE MEL 06:05 08:30
QF677 MEL ADL 09:10 10:00
QF587 ADL PER 11:10 13:05
____________________________
******Separate Tickets******
____________________________

31/05
QF598 PER BNE 12:55 19:20 (Discount Y)
04/06
QF513 BNE SYD 09:15 10:45 (J)
29/06
QF72 SIN PER 19:25 00:30 +1 (Discount Y)
02/08
QF77 PER SIN 11:25 16:45 (Discount Y)
05/08
QF4191 AKL ZQN 11:00 12:50 *Buy this Ticket separate as it is a Y Class only flight. NZ$110
 

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For starters you have 3 stopovers in London. Can only have one in each city - the others need to be under 24 hours and thus transits.
 

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SC earn is

SYD-SIN zone 5 = 120
SIN-LHR zone 7 = 160
LGW-VAR zone 3 = 80
VAR-LGW zone 3 = 80
LGW-KEF zone 2 = 60
KEF-LGW zone 2 = 60
LHR-LAX zone 6 = 140
LAX-ORD zone 3 = 120 (F)
ORD-MSY zone 2 = 90 (F)
MSY-DFW zone 1 = 60 (F)
DFW-JFK zone 3 = 120 (F)
JFK-LAX zone 4 = 150 (F) or 100 (C)
LAX-HKG zone 8 = 180
HKG-SIN zone 3 = 80
SIN-HKG zone 3 = 80
HKG-AKL zone 6 = 140
ZQN-BNE zone 3 = 80
BNE-MEL zone 2 = 60
MEL-ADL zone 1 = 40
ADL-PER zone 3 = 80

PER-BNE zone 3 = 20 (disc Y)
BNE-SYD zone 1 = 40 (C)
SIN-PER zone 4 = 25 (disc Y)
PER-SIN zone 4 = 25 (disc Y)
AKL-ZQN zone 2 = 15 (disc Y)
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
For starters you have 3 stopovers in London. Can only have one in each city - the others need to be under 24 hours and thus transits.
Kiwi FLyer, I don't believe that to be the case; you can stop over at the same place more than once. AFAIK the only limit to stopovers is within a "continent", in this case 2 in SWP, 4 each in EUR, N/A & Asia.

Having said that, I believe it is a good idea to avoid LON stopovers (& UK F/J departures in general) due to a hefty Levy of £40/£10 each time.
UK taxes said:
International Travel
...
GBP10.00 applicable for travel “not” in the lowest class of service to EEA points.
...
GBP40.00 applicable for travel “not” in the lowest class of travel worldwide except EEA points.
...
DEFINITIONS:
United Kingdom: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
EEA areas (EU European Union): Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, (Croatia, from 01Nov 06) Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (excluding overseas departments), Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Romania, Slovac Republic,
Slovenia, Switzerland, Turkey, The United Kingdom. The following EU member state dependent territories are also included, Azores, Balearic Islands, Canary Islands, Channel Islands, Corsica, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Madeira, Isle of Man, Sardinia and Sicily.
For UK Tax purposes, Basel (BSL) and Geneva (GVA) are considered to be EU member state destinations.
 
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Thankyou so much everyone for all your help. The information has been truely valuable. Sending this off to my travel agent to book through AA (save on fuel fines).

Looking forward to making it to Gold by the time I get to LHR (the first time). Also looking forward to QF Plat on me return. Until this year I have never been anything other than Bronze (White in the old scheme) or QC Bronze.
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
For starters you have 3 stopovers in London. Can only have one in each city - the others need to be under 24 hours and thus transits.
As Serfty points out, on a DONE4 you have unlimited stopovers and no restrictions regarding multiple stopovers in any place except for the max of 2 stopovers in the continent of origin. I have had multiple LON stops on several DONE4 itineraries. Its just the 40 quid tax that gets you!
 

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serfty said:
Kiwi FLyer, I don't believe that to be the case; you can stop over at the same place more than once. AFAIK the only limit to stopovers is within a "continent", in this case 2 in SWP, 4 each in EUR, N/A & Asia.

Having said that, I believe it is a good idea to avoid LON stopovers (& UK F/J departures in general) due to a hefty Levy of £40/£10 each time.

Thanks - I must have been getting confused with *A RTW rules. :oops:

Yeah well aware of LON charges adding up quickly. Do you know if the rule to avoid it is 24 hours, same date, or something else?
 

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One thing I found out about last night what Upgrading from DONE4 to DONE5 does not give you anymore sectors :(. I is looking like I may need to goto Angola (EEK!) for work I was hopeing you may have got 24 sectors with a DONE5.
 

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v8Statesman said:
One thing I found out about last night what Upgrading from DONE4 to DONE5 does not give you anymore sectors :(. I is looking like I may need to goto Angola (EEK!) for work I was hopeing you may have got 24 sectors with a DONE5.
That's correct, no more sectors ... but you do get an extra 4 stopovers in Africa (or S/A).
 

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I am looking at buying the ticket seperate. As I have all 20 sectors allocated. It just does not feel right to Pay more and remove a destiantion from the DONE4.
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
Thanks - I must have been getting confused with *A RTW rules. :oops:

Yeah well aware of LON charges adding up quickly. Do you know if the rule to avoid it is 24 hours, same date, or something else?
If the transit connection is international, then its 24 hours. If the transit connection is domestic, then it is 6 hours, or if the arrival is after 5pm then the domestic departure must be before 10am the following day.

And the amount payable varies by the destination of the departing flight, from as low as GBP5 for domestic or certain EC counties in the lowest cabin class, up to GBP40 for international departures (non-EC or EEA points) in a cabin class other than the lowest cabin offered.
 

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v8Statesman said:
I am looking at buying the ticket seperate. As I have all 20 sectors allocated. It just does not feel right to Pay more and remove a destiantion from the DONE4.

It may well work out cheaper to remove existing flights (eg intra-europe), replacing them with separate ticket, and upgrade your DONE4 to DONE5. I imagine Angola may be expensive to get to/from europe.
 
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If the transit connection is international, then its 24 hours. If the transit connection is domestic, then it is 6 hours, or if the arrival is after 5pm then the domestic departure must be before 10am the following day.

On an OW ATW ticket, a stopover occurs if you exceed 24 hours regardless of whether it is domestic or international

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