Daylight Saving Discussion

[Rox]

I don't object to daylight saving in principle, but I do wish it were better advertised. In my mind it still happens at the end of October, so I was caught out yesterday and arrived an hour late for a commitment. I don't have television but I do listen to news on the radio at least once a day, and nothing had alerted me this year.

I learnt about it on the ABC radio. Several reminders through last week. Don't remember anything on TV.
I agree you could miss easily though.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I learnt about it on the ABC radio. Several reminders through last week. Don't remember anything on TV.
I agree you could miss easily though.

If your mobile phone has its time set off the mobile signal, the time is usually automatically adjusted, alarms, appointments & reminders will automatically switch to the new times.

 

[JohnK]

If your mobile phone has its time set off the mobile signal, the time is usually automatically adjusted, alarms, appointments & reminders will automatically switch to the new times.

Yes they adjust automatically but my poor Samsung Galaxy S3 was struggling to come to grips with daylight saving on Saturday night.

At ~11:00pm in Brisbane (this is the world clock setting on my phone) I set the alarm for ~7:20am Sunday morning and I was informed the alarm was set for 7 hours and 20 minutes from now! And I have 2 alarms and both were including 1 hour even though there is no daylight saving in Brisbane. :shock:

Everything was fine Sunday morning but slight glitch the night before. I guess something that was not tested properly?

 

[Denali]

My husband changed all our house clocks/appliances on Saturday morning....... something I didn't find out about until Saturday afternoon when things got weird enough for me to notice. Thanks for that, Honey.

Phones switched over nicely but the hotel alarm that we did not set went off at 6.05am public holiday/after Souths win Monday - not happy.

 

[nlagalle]

I learnt about it on the ABC radio. Several reminders through last week. Don't remember anything on TV.
I agree you could miss easily though.

I saw it on the news on Saturday night..

 

[tim374]

Its easy enough to remember when daylight saving starts as it's the long weekend in October (or remember the grand final for those more football inclined).

 

[medhead]

Except that if the clock says it's 4am, it's 4am, not 3am....

Nature does things on the same schedule. The cows want to be milked at the same time, they don't know or care what the clock says. Daylight savings makes no difference. The only difference is for people who seem to think they need to be told how to live their life by a machine.

The clock is an abstract construct. Free yourself from such nonsense.

Nice of you to say I don't understand daylight savings.

You go to sleep one hour earlier and wake up one hour earlier. Everyone is doing it. Offices have adjusted to daylight savings. Shop trading hours have also adjusted to daylight savings. Public transport. Clubs. Pubs. Etc.

Hang on a second now your saying there is no problem with going to sleep earlier. make up your mind.

Yes I know. I can start 3 hours earlier and finish at 2:00pm instead. But that means I would need to go to sleep earlier.

You could of course avoid your misery between april and october by getting up an hour earlier. But I guess that would be too hard.

Now what was that about milking cows again?

I fear it is too complex for you, the cows need to be milked according to when the sun rises. News flash but daylight savings does not make the sun rise later or earlier. The person gets up according to the movement of the earth around the sun not a clock. If you think that someone would need to get up an hour earlier to milk cows, as in an hour before the sun rises, that suggests a straw man argument that fails to match reality. Certainly can't imagine why you'd suggest a farmer should get up an hour earlier when that would be pointless and stupid. I can only think the clock paradigm has you caught in it's grip.

How's that extra hour of daylight coming along, have you managed to vary the rotation of the earth yet?

And it's just as simple to get up a hour earlier to milk the cows.

 

[JohnK]

The easiest way to remember for me is the fun starts first weekend in October and the misery begins first weekend in April.

Just wish I was back in Sydney to take advantage of the longer sunlight hours in the evenings for some much needed golf practice....

 

[nlagalle]

Nature does things on the same schedule. The cows want to be milked at the same time, they don't know or care what the clock says. Daylight savings makes no difference. The only difference is for people who seem to think they need to be told how to live their life by a machine.

You could of course avoid your misery between april and october by getting up an hour earlier. But I guess that would be too hard.[/quote0

You forget one thing though.. daylight is shorter in Winter. If I get up at say 7am every day, while DST in in effect the sun will already be up, once DST stops the sun isn't always up.

So while I may have a month or so straight after the end of DST where the sun is up before 7am, from about mid April the sun won't rise til 7am anyway so why get up when it's dark? It's like that until at least mid August. We have extra daylight during summer, we are just shifting it an hour later on our clocks.

and while you may want to "live free" without a watch, society as a whole won't and we still need to be at work on time.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

The cows want to be milked at the same time, they don't know or care what the clock says.

Which cows told you that?

 

[SeatBackForward]

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day(1)

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(1) Unless its stopped between 2am and 3am, in which case it will be wrong twice a year.

 

[nlagalle]

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day(1)

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(1) Unless its stopped between 2am and 3am, in which case it will be wrong twice a year.

I have a 24 hour dial on my wall clock so it would only be right once a day!

 

[JohnK]

Hang on a second now your saying there is no problem with going to sleep earlier. make up your mind.


You could of course avoid your misery between april and october by getting up an hour earlier. But I guess that would be too hard.



I fear it is too complex for you, the cows need to be milked according to when the sun rises. News flash but daylight savings does not make the sun rise later or earlier. The person gets up according to the movement of the earth around the sun not a clock. If you think that someone would need to get up an hour earlier to milk cows, as in an hour before the sun rises, that suggests a straw man argument that fails to match reality. Certainly can't imagine why you'd suggest a farmer should get up an hour earlier when that would be pointless and stupid. I can only think the clock paradigm has you caught in it's grip.

How's that extra hour of daylight coming along, have you managed to vary the rotation of the earth yet?

What are you on about?

The whole argument against daylight saving is milking cows and how it would still be hot at 9:00pm instead of 8:00pm.

It doesn't matter if the cows are milked 4:00am on a DST clock or 3:00am on a ST clock. The cows would still produce same milk. Farmer gets up an hour later which is the same time as non DST time.

I don't want to get up one hour earlier in winter. Too cold. Brrrr....

 

[SeatBackForward]

I have a 24 hour dial on my wall clock so it would only be right once a day!

A single dial? That is a saving of sorts!

 

[nlagalle]

A single dial? That is a saving of sorts!

It's pretty good! OT, but its out of a control tower from WWII. Dad restored it and gave it to me.

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[blackcat20]

Its easy enough to remember when daylight saving starts as it's the long weekend in October (or remember the grand final for those more football inclined).

Except those of us in Victoria had to go to work yesterday...

 

[tim374]

Except those of us in Victoria had to go to work yesterday...

I think those people get 2 extra public holidays instead. One in March and one in November.

 

[JohnK]

Except those of us in Victoria had to go to work yesterday...

Don't you get Labour Day in March?

FWIW I worked yesterday and I will take TOIL with my next trip in ~4 weeks.

 

[blackcat20]

That'd be one extra, give our equivalent was in March. But it also means we get no public holidays between June and November...

 

[whatmeworry]

Thanks to Jeff Kennet we lost the Show day holiday and because of the Liberals no public holiday for ANZAC day being on a weekend.