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Cruising choices with an active Pandemic

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I guess you could say opening it up to high risk infected travellers from the US market with insufficient checks is bringing it on themselves.

No way it can safely operate with that customer base without quarantine, so foolish to try.
 
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odysseus said:
I guess you could say opening it up to high risk infected travellers from the US market with insufficient checks is bringing it on themselves.

No way it can safely operate with that customer base without quarantine, so foolish to try.
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The issue with cruising in the current climate is not so much getting Covid myself, but the issues that if anyone on the boat tests positive then the whole cruise becomes a nightmare. Just. Not. Worth. It.
 
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The CDC is definite no cruising including river cruises.

  • CDC recommends that all people avoid travel on cruise ships, including river cruises, worldwide, because the risk of COVID-19 on cruise ships is very high. It is especially important that people with an increased risk of severe illness avoid travel on cruise ships, including river cruises.
  • Cruise passengers are at increased risk of person-to-person spread of infectious diseases, including COVID-19, and outbreaks of COVID-19 have been reported on cruise ships.
  • Passengers who decide to go on a cruise should get tested 3-5 days after your trip AND stay home for 7 days after travel. Even if you test negative, stay home for the full 7 days.
  • If you don't get tested, it's safest to stay home for 14 days after you travel.

COVID-19 and Cruise Ship Travel - COVID-19 Very High - Level 4: COVID-19 Very High - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC

CDC recommends that travelers defer all cruise travel worldwide.
wwwnc.cdc.gov
 
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drron said:
The CDC is definite no cruising including river cruises.

  • CDC recommends that all people avoid travel on cruise ships, including river cruises, worldwide, because the risk of COVID-19 on cruise ships is very high. It is especially important that people with an increased risk of severe illness avoid travel on cruise ships, including river cruises.
  • Cruise passengers are at increased risk of person-to-person spread of infectious diseases, including COVID-19, and outbreaks of COVID-19 have been reported on cruise ships.
  • Passengers who decide to go on a cruise should get tested 3-5 days after your trip AND stay home for 7 days after travel. Even if you test negative, stay home for the full 7 days.
  • If you don't get tested, it's safest to stay home for 14 days after you travel.

COVID-19 and Cruise Ship Travel - COVID-19 Very High - Level 4: COVID-19 Very High - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC

CDC recommends that travelers defer all cruise travel worldwide.
wwwnc.cdc.gov
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All came about because of the stupid actions of SeaDream.
 
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The Aranui 5 has been sailing with passengers for 3 months out of Tahiti.They did have a severe glitch in September when 7 crew tested positive as a cruise set out for the Marquesas.They have since resumed.
However the conditions include being tested before flying to Tahiti and retested the day before the cruise.
www.portnews.com.au

Cruising with cargo over to French Polynesia as borders reopen

Aranui 5 is one of the few ships that continued sailing during the pandemic.
www.portnews.com.au www.portnews.com.au

tahititourisme.com.au

Coronavirus COVID-19 - Travel Information | Tahiti Tourisme

Papeete, December 11, 2020 Conditions of entry and stay in French Polynesia French Polynesia has confirmed conditions of entry and stay in the country
tahititourisme.com.au tahititourisme.com.au

www.aranui.com

CORONAVIRUS UPDATE - Aranui

CORONAVIRUS UPDATE CORONAVIRUS UPDATE On September 18th 2020, Our cruises have resumed their normal operations since August 2020 with all the necessary and strict safety measures due to the Covid. Message from the President General Manager Over the last seven decades the company has been...
www.aranui.com www.aranui.com

www.maritime-executive.com

Passenger-Cargo Ship Aranui 5 Turned Back by COVID-19

The unique cargo-passenger ship the Aranui 5 has become the latest vessel to have its service interr...
www.maritime-executive.com www.maritime-executive.com

They have recommenced cruising.We have been looking at doing a cruise on this ship mainly because they have introduced cruises to Picairn Island and their cruises to Pitcairn are way cheaper than Silversea.Unfortunately the Pitcairn cruises have been cancelled for 2021.
 
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Our April 2021 cruise around Japan with Viking has just been cancelled by Viking. 125% future credit or full refund (deposit only paid). I've asked for it to be applied to our hoped for Egypt cruise next December (I think this date we will be in Cairo) but if they refuse to do that then we will get refund. Not that we were going anyway.
 
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Well, Dream's been operating for months now without issue, so it doesn't always.

But that's not good for RCL who only just restarted. Seems they haven't got as good procedures.

I find this statement weird: "The guest who tested positive will be refunded the full amount of the cruise, according to the Straits Times. Everyone else will be refunded the value of one day on the cruise." The positive passenger would have had the same 'cruise experience' to the test point as others, and didn't apparently get it from others or onboard, so not sure why they get the extra refund. If anything, it's the other passengers who have the greatest risk of exposure to something not of their fault that I would have thought would get more compensation.
 
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odysseus said:
I find this statement weird: "The guest who tested positive will be refunded the full amount of the cruise, according to the Straits Times. Everyone else will be refunded the value of one day on the cruise." The positive passenger would have had the same 'cruise experience' to the test point as others, and didn't apparently get it from others or onboard, so not sure why they get the extra refund. If anything, it's the other passengers who have the greatest risk of exposure to something not of their fault that I would have thought would get more compensation.
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So best value is to test positive on the last day of your cruise!
 
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Increasing concerns on CC about impending corporate re-arrangements in the Cruise industry.
In any business , a time may come when admission of insufficient trading funds may allow an "organised" reset of the corporate structure.
Simply put.. quit, dump the debt and start over.
Some of the dumped debt will be customers pre payments, but market research will likely indicate sufficient demand without the disenfranchised.
Summary : keep your powder dry and only shoot when their eye whites are clear and unambiguous….
 
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Anna said:
The cruise lines keep trying these 'covid free' cruises and it keeps ending badly
www.theguardian.com

Singapore 'cruise to nowhere' ends after passenger tests positive for Covid-19

The post-pandemic test voyage is open only to city-state residents but 2,000 passengers were confined to their cabins after one contracted the virus
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Chicken said:
"The passenger had taken a mandatory Covid-19 PCR test prior to boarding, and was tested negative"

So, well, it was a cruise to nowhere to start with
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Turned out to be a false positive as per today's MOH release in Singapore:

MOH | News Highlights

Find speeches, press releases, forum replies and parliamentary Q&A.
www.moh.gov.sg www.moh.gov.sg



A final confirmatory test conducted by the National Public Health Laboratory (NPHL) on 10 December 2020 has confirmed that the 83 year-old male Singaporean on board Royal Caribbean International’s Quantum of the Seas does not have COVID-19 infection. The sample taken from the individual this morning came back negative for the virus. This follows two Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) tests conducted yesterday by NPHL, one on a re-test of his original sample, and the other on a fresh sample taken yesterday, which had also come back negative. We have rescinded the Quarantine Orders of his close contacts, who had earlier been placed on quarantine as a precautionary measure while investigations were ongoing. MOH will support the laboratory on board the Quantum of the Seas in its review of its testing processes.
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