Complimentary Seat Selection in Business?

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Over the coming months thanks in large part to a number of upgrades secured, I will be travelling quite a bit in QF J (primarily on 737s but a couple of flights on 787 & A330 aircraft). One thing I notice a lot on my flights though is the first row has been blocked off. Are these seats reserved for QFF Platinums? If so, when will they get released to us lowly Golds?

Forgive me if this is a silly question, clearly I'm the rusty traveller and certainly not match fit to fly on QF birds as I reckon Uncle Alan would argue. And yet I somehow managed to fly them anyway! 😉

-RooFlyer88
 
P1s and CLs, and T-80.
Does T-80 apply for Golds or just everyone else? Is this something I could easily track as a seat alert on ExpertFlyer? It would sure be a pity to not be seated in 1A where the Roo belongs!

-RooFlyer88
 
Does T-80 apply for Golds or just everyone else? Is this something I could easily track as a seat alert on ExpertFlyer? It would sure be a pity to not be seated in 1A where the Roo belongs!

-RooFlyer88
T-80 is for everyone, including non status passengers.
 
T-80 is for everyone as above.

And yes, as a P1 I am able to select (and often preallocated) into row 1 on most aircraft (I tend to move for my own reasons). It is definitely a status benefit. Yes I am that P1 that sometimes is in row 3 on a 737 and very happy to be there (or Row 2 on an A330 for hopefully obvious reasons)

Hopefully you would find better options open once T-80 hits.

enjoy your flights :)
 
Does T-80 apply for Golds or just everyone else? Is this something I could easily track as a seat alert on ExpertFlyer? It would sure be a pity to not be seated in 1A where the Roo belongs!

-RooFlyer88
Funny, and seems to fly in the face of most others but I really dislike row 1 and always go for R2. It's the not having the seat in front to store stuff under and having to put everything in the overhead lockers.
 
Funny, and seems to fly in the face of most others but I really dislike row 1 and always go for R2. It's the not having the seat in front to store stuff under and having to put everything in the overhead lockers.
EXACTLY my reason on 737's

:D

(not an issue on the 787 of course, and the increased space in the foot well is a bonus)
 
Funny, and seems to fly in the face of most others but I really dislike row 1 and always go for R2. It's the not having the seat in front to store stuff under and having to put everything in the overhead lockers.
There are a coupe reasons why I favour row 1 over other rows on most aircraft (aside perhaps the A330 which has those BusinessFirst cabins further back). First, I find the leg room to be quite good. Second, due to the ongoing COVID pandemic, being at the front of the plane in theory minimizes your risks flying since your only source of exposure would be anyone beside or behind you. Third, it takes the stress out of planing and deplaning, since you are in that front row. The absence of no undersea storage is a real luxury too since that means I am guaranteed overhead locker storage meaning I don't need to scramble to secure such valuable a commodity either.

Hard agree on row 2,3 being better on 737.
That being said, I may give row 2/3 a consideration on one of my upcoming flights. So far I have been lucky flying QF J to either be seated in room 1 on the 737 or the BusinessFirst suites on the A330.

-RooFlyer88
 
There are a coupe reasons why I favour row 1 over other rows on most aircraft (aside perhaps the A330 which has those BusinessFirst cabins further back). First, I find the leg room to be quite good. Second, due to the ongoing COVID pandemic, being at the front of the plane in theory minimizes your risks flying since your only source of exposure would be anyone beside or behind you. Third, it takes the stress out of planing and deplaning, since you are in that front row. The absence of no undersea storage is a real luxury too since that means I am guaranteed overhead locker storage meaning I don't need to scramble to secure such valuable a commodity either.

All reasonable poins though I have quite long legs and actually reckon I can stretch them more in Row 2 or 3 than in row 1 (unless in C or D where I can trip up the FA's should I stick my legs out - which I would prefer to not do lol). I'm a window seat guy so it's a little harder in that respect. That's very personal view though of course.

As for covid yes, reasonable, but all you need is the person behind you eating meal, sneezing all over and... well doesn't much matter if you're in 1,2 or 3.. but I take the point absolutely. Of course during boarding, unless you board last, you still have most of the pax (unless rear boarding is happening) passing right by row 1 anyway so.....

but the real comment I have to maks is about guiaranteed overhead locker storage. I find this the most stressful part of row 1! Isn't it funny how we have such contrasting views on this!! :)

For mine, row 1 has a few multiple problems for bags. I prefer to have access to my bag in flight for odds and ends, but even if I am happy to take out what I need for a flight (not much on a short hop of course) and store overhead, you have the problem of the mix of 737 row 1 overheads:

- those a/c where row 1 overhead is fully dedicated to medical gear
- those a/c where row 1 overhead has the little "cubby hole" half bin available
- those a/c with a full bin (the newer sky interior seem to be these ones.

I mostly sit in A/C seats so that is the general experience there. I know the bin over 1 D/F is usually more normal, but sometimes it has gear in it too. Sometimes a FA bag!

So it then becomes, for me, a desire to become gate lice and try to board earlier to try and get my bag above row 1 IF there is space available.

If not, it's then going back to row 2 or 3 unless one is really late and those are all full of stuff (have not had this happen to me personally but HAVE seen pax have to retreat bags to Y on occasion to find a spot).

Of course I understand the notion of space should be "guaranteed" because you have NO option to store a bag at your feet, but I don't believe that gives any right to shove bags around elsewhere to ensure that, specially if you have 1.5 bins for 4 pax in row 1 in a full J cabin. And if most pax travel with more carry on than they probably should... well you get the picture.

So I generally avoid row 1 just because I know what I take with me will fit under the seat in front, I can access my stuff, and I'm not worrying about the overhead bin scramble.

so... we have differing views on this :)

plus I have a friend who gives me cough for being entitled if I sit in 1A :D
 
As for covid yes, reasonable, but all you need is the person behind you eating meal, sneezing all over and... well doesn't much matter if you're in 1,2 or 3.. but I take the point absolutely. Of course during boarding, unless you board last, you still have most of the pax (unless rear boarding is happening) passing right by row 1 anyway so.....

but the real comment I have to maks is about guiaranteed overhead locker storage. I find this the most stressful part of row 1! Isn't it funny how we have such contrasting views on this!! :)

For mine, row 1 has a few multiple problems for bags. I prefer to have access to my bag in flight for odds and ends, but even if I am happy to take out what I need for a flight (not much on a short hop of course) and store overhead, you have the problem of the mix of 737 row 1 overheads:

- those a/c where row 1 overhead is fully dedicated to medical gear
- those a/c where row 1 overhead has the little "cubby hole" half bin available
- those a/c with a full bin (the newer sky interior seem to be these ones.
I used to be an early boarder, but since COVID, I'm not willing to take that risk. I want it all at this point, I want to get out there and travel and enjoy seeing the world, attending conferences, doing what I want without being trapped at home or having another misinformed politician or public health official drone on about how we should avoid getting vaccinated. This means ensuring I maximize my vaccine protection (4 doses and counting), and taking additional precautions at the airport (i.e. wearing tight fitting 3M N95 respirators, boarding last, social distancing at the airport and lounges, leaving the mask on until we hit 30,000 fit for several minutes so that the HEPA filters have sterilized the air). Is it bullet proof? Only time will tell! Since this pandemic, I've taken 29 flights totalling over 30,000 miles entirely domestic (including last week's "domestic" flight to HNL). ServiceNSW has notified me many times of being a close contact including several times where I have been a close contact for more than a couple of minutes. I test weekly at a minimum regardless of symptoms and so far no problems *knock on wood*.

I would be surprised if I run out of locker space for my carryon backpack as I'm seated in the front row. I mean, I can't check the bag since it contains laptop, iPad and other batteries, passport, medication, etc. They would likely have to accommodate some other bags taking up that space. From flying JétStar, Qantas' luxury airline, that if I was on a MAX fare and seated in the front row, the cabin crew would keep those first passenger locker closed until I boarded. Unsure if that's what mainline Qantas does, all the time but will be flying them quite a bit over the coming months.

As an aside, if travelling in J, I'll usually let the airline know ahead of time what I expect of the flight. For instance, if I'm doing SYD > MEL on an A330 I make it quite clear that I expect getting a meal straight away so I can spend exactly 15 minutes eating, and a further 30 minutes in lie flat mode to maximize my nap time. I know when I was travelling between Toronto and Montreal (~1 hour flight) on AC the cabin crew honoured this. And for those wondering, yeah, a 30 minute nap on a lie flat seat can really make a difference. As it presently stands (and correct me if I'm wrong here), QF does not offer much in terms of PDB "domestically" in AU/NZ (bottled water from what I recall).

Another habit that has gone the way of Canadian Airlines upgrade stickers is avoiding baggage check at all costs. I used to take pride in travelling with carry on only. It certainly shaved some time off trips. However, this also meant an early board to ensure I got the dedicated overhead bin space (and of course selecting a seat where undersea stowage was possible).

-RooFlyer88
 
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Is the T-80 for the removal of all restrictions, or are there other earlier stages that open up more seats before T-80?

I recently booked a reward flight for two family members using the WP perk of opening up a reward seat (QF8 DFW-SYD) and the seating options for Bronze Frequent Flyers aren't great (compared to what's available in EF).


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I'd expect that the first few rows would be blocked, but was surprised to see Rows 1-6, and Row 11 on a 787.

Is there any way to get better seats before T-80? Is there an earlier option where more seats are opened up? I don't remember the seating options for Bronze/no status FFers being that restrictive in the past, but to be fair, perhaps I haven't been paying attention (and this flight is a long way out - not till Nov 2022).
 
Whilst T-80 is not hard or fast by any means, what you are seeing is the seating available to your status level. It isn't new by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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As an aside, if travelling in J, I'll usually let the airline know ahead of time what I expect of the flight. For instance, if I'm doing SYD > MEL on an A330 I make it quite clear that I expect getting a meal straight away so I can spend exactly 15 minutes eating, and a further 30 minutes in lie flat mode to maximize my nap time. I know when I was travelling between Toronto and Montreal (~1 hour flight) on AC the cabin crew honoured this. And for those wondering, yeah, a 30 minute nap on a lie flat seat can really make a difference. As it presently stands (and correct me if I'm wrong here), QF does not offer much in terms of PDB "domestically" in AU/NZ (bottled water from what I recall).
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ROFL. Fat chance on QF. Especially on an A330.
 
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