Bizarre Experience at the QF J Lounge LAX

[Guvner]

Random question about multi-lounging:
Each lounge allows you to being in one guest. Could you guest one travelling companion into the F lounge and another into the J lounge?

Shhhh.......

 

[RooFlyer]

Random question about multi-lounging:
Each lounge allows you to being in one guest. Could you guest one travelling companion into the F lounge and another into the J lounge?

Unlikely I think where they scan your BP on entry, and that of the first guest.

 

[JessicaTam]

Phew, I am glad the J lounge Angel was only an aberration.

I had visions of nothing to do next June long weekend.

 

[Guvner]

Unlikely I think where they scan your BP on entry, and that of the first guest.

Are you assuming the lounges are operated by the same airline?

 

[medhead]

Unlikely I think where they scan your BP on entry, and that of the first guest.

Which may not matter. In theory, the guest is supposed to leave with the guesting member. But they don't scan you out. So the guesting person could turn up at another lounge, have BP scanned transferring them to the new lounge. The question is whether that then flags the guest in the previous lounge to be hunted down and bounced.

In short it might be possible, but expect to have one or other kicked out.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Maybe the bartender didn't notice the tip that you had in your hand?

Good point!

Actually, while I tip $1 per drink in US domestic lounges (except for water), I wouldn't even think of it in an international lounge?!

 

[TomVexille]

Which may not matter. In theory, the guest is supposed to leave with the guesting member. But they don't scan you out. So the guesting person could turn up at another lounge, have BP scanned transferring them to the new lounge. The question is whether that then flags the guest in the previous lounge to be hunted down and bounced.

In short it might be possible, but expect to have one or other kicked out.

Just curious as to where that's written in the rules? (the guest leaving with you part)

 

[medhead]

Just curious as to where that's written in the rules? (the guest leaving with you part)

Not sure. But if they are in the lounge as a guest and not in their own right, I fail how they could, technically, justify staying in the lounge without having access rights.

 

[TomVexille]

Not sure. But if they are in the lounge as a guest and not in their own right, I fail how they could, technically, stay in the lounge without having access rights.

As I read the rules, once you have been granted access, that is your access right. I would suggest someone who has been guested has every right to stay until your flight.

From the oneworld site:

• Emerald tier frequent flyers can use First Class, Business Class or frequent flyer lounges.
• Sapphire tier frequent flyers are welcome in Business Class* or frequent flyer lounges. (*does not include Qantas Domestic Business Lounges)
• Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
• You must be prepared to show your boarding pass and frequent flyer membership card, with oneworld Emerald orSapphire tier status, to access a lounge.

The key point being that the guest must be flying on a onworld flight that day

 

[TheRealTMA]

Good point!

Actually, while I tip $1 per drink in US domestic lounges (except for water), I wouldn't even think of it in an international lounge?!

Why not tip for the water? It's still a service you are paying for?

 

[DC3]

Generally, a couple of dollars up front to a barman can provide some good drinks, I've found.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Why not tip for the water? It's still a service you are paying for?

i was referring to a bottle of water, handing me which I don't consider a 'service'. But anything else which involves an element of preparation (such as mixing, or adding ice and lemon etc).. that gets the tip.

 

[Nickor]

Which may not matter. In theory, the guest is supposed to leave with the guesting member. But they don't scan you out. So the guesting person could turn up at another lounge, have BP scanned transferring them to the new lounge. The question is whether that then flags the guest in the previous lounge to be hunted down and bounced.

In short it might be possible, but expect to have one or other kicked out.

Having no knowledge of these things, but as an accountant, I would expect that scanning boarding passes on entry has everything to do with charging your OneWorld partner and minor consequences for restricting access!

 

[JohnM]

I always prefer self-serve.

One (of several) reasons why the CCR in LHR is totally underwhelming.

 

[JohnM]

Who knows ? I did note that there was a super cute (male) Aussie barista in the J Lounge conducting some sort of training with the staff.

Rejuvenated after Barbados, PF?

 

[RooFlyer]

Not sure. But if they are in the lounge as a guest and not in their own right, I fail how they could, technically, justify staying in the lounge without having access rights.

Justified or not, I've done it heaps of times, internationally and domestically when Canadian colleagues fly with me on Qantas. Moreover, they have gone out, and re-entered without me (staying put) being called (oz domestic lounges, in those cases).

 

[RooFlyer]

Having no knowledge of these things, but as an accountant, I would expect that scanning boarding passes on entry has everything to do with charging your OneWorld partner and minor consequences for restricting access!

I'm sure that that's a significant reason, but it would be silly if one could guest some-one in, then go out, grab some-one else, guest them in, and so on. The host lounge would get paid, but pretty soon the lounge would get chokkers, to the exclusion of legitimate guests!

 

[madrooster]

I had someone from (a oneworld airline, won't name which airline) tell me that apparently the guest is admitted free of charge and that the operating airline only pays once (for the entry of the eligible member only)...

 

[medhead]

Having no knowledge of these things, but as an accountant, I would expect that scanning boarding passes on entry has everything to do with charging your OneWorld partner and minor consequences for restricting access!

Did you notice the bit where I said that was the question?

Justified or not, I've done it heaps of times, internationally and domestically when Canadian colleagues fly with me on Qantas. Moreover, they have gone out, and re-entered without me (staying put) being called (oz domestic lounges, in those cases).

I did not say anything about the practice being justified. I questioned how anyone would be able to justify it to a lounge staff member trying to bounce them. I'm not even sure how your example fits still if you've stayed put then you should be in the lounge. In any case, let's not get confused between what is possible and what I guess is the airline's official position.

 

[RooFlyer]

Justified or not, I've done it heaps of times, internationally and domestically when Canadian colleagues fly with me on Qantas. Moreover, they have gone out, and re-entered without me (staying put) being called (oz domestic lounges, in those cases).

I did not say anything about the practice being justified. I questioned how anyone would be able to justify it to a lounge staff member trying to bounce them. <snip>

Ah, I see.



Well, to address your actual question, let me venture this. If I was guested in, and the person who guested me in left the lounge, and a lounge agent then questioned my right to be in the lounge my response would be "I was guested in by such and such. Please check your records of lounge admissions, as we entered the lounge together and the BP(s) were scanned, or here is their mobile number, please call them if you wish." YMMV.

Of course if they still said "Get out" I would comply with the agent's orders, but I would follow it up.

<snip>
I'm not even sure how your example fits still if you've stayed put then you should be in the lounge. In any case, let's not get confused between what is possible and what I guess is the airline's official position.

In the example I gave, they were different occurrences. I don't think there is confusion between what's possible and what the airline's official position is (lets say QF). In this case, I don't think there is an 'official position' on legitimately admitted guests staying after their host has left (for instance to catch a later flight), but dig it out and post if you like.