Baggage Allowance on Qantas when Checking in with non-Oneworld carrier

[drakdaystar]

I am flying Shanghai to Sydney via HK (Shanghai to HK on Hong Kong Airlines and HK to Sydney on Qantas). It is all booked on a single ticket. My ticket says 30kg baggage allowance for each leg. I am a Platinum FF member. Does this mean that I will receive 50kg baggage allowance for the entire journey (30kg on ticket + 20kg as Platinum FF)? Or does the 50kg only apply to the Qantas leg? Hong Kong Airlines are not part of Oneworld.

Also, would I need to pick up my luggage in HK given Hong Kong Airlines is not Oneworld?

Have contacted both Qantas and Hong Kong Airlines, and neither seem to know the answer…

Thanks in advance!

 

[Forg]

While I can’t answer the question, one clarification that might be useful to those who can … when you say “single ticket” does that mean the HK Airlines leg has a QF flight-number on the ticket you have?

I kinda suspect that if neither HK Airlines nor Qantas have been able to answer the question over the ‘phone, then it might cause you a lot of hassle at baggage check-in regardless of what the answer is. ‘Cos the check-in people aren’t likely to know a lot more than Customer Service, and you might be up for an annoying argument which you mightn’t need to pay for in the end but which is pretty stressful at the time.
Not to mention the fact that lugging over 30kg of luggage around per-person is a royal pain in the posterior ...

 

[drakdaystar]

While I can’t answer the question, one clarification that might be useful to those who can … when you say “single ticket” does that mean the HK Airlines leg has a QF flight-number on the ticket you have?

Both legs were booked in a single booking. HK Airlines leg does not have a QF flight number.

 

[Ansett Nostalgic]

How do you get HK Airlines on the same booking as QF?

 

[drakdaystar]

How do you get HK Airlines on the same booking as QF?

Booked on Qantas website

 

[DejaBrew]

I would imagine the baggage rules are governed by the Most Significant Carrier rule applies here, meaning that your baggage allowance should be based on your Qantas allowance. Checking the HK Airlines site, it would seem that they only offer 23kg checked luggage, so if your ticket states 30kg, then that would be your standard Qantas allowance and this should be applying to the whole journey. I would therefore expect any OW Status to further add to your allowance.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I would imagine the baggage rules are governed by the Most Significant Carrier rule applies here, meaning that your baggage allowance should be based on your Qantas allowance. Checking the HK Airlines site, it would seem that they only offer 23kg checked luggage, so if your ticket states 30kg, then that would be your standard Qantas allowance and this should be applying to the whole journey. I would therefore expect any OW Status to further add to your allowance.

But HK Airpines isnt part of Oneworld, and doesn’t have any affiliation with Qantas. I’d be pleasantly surprised if they honoured the extra allowance based on qantas status (unless that’s already reflected on the ticket).

It might take a day or two for it to update on the ticket (like jetstar?)

 

[jase05]

How do you get HK Airlines on the same booking as QF?

QF website offers CX and HX

 

[Mwenenzi]

.....so if your ticket states 30kg, then that would be your standard Qantas allowance and this should be applying to the whole journey. I would therefore expect any OW Status to further add to your allowance.

I would expect QF or OW status [extra] benefits to only apply to the QF flight (or a oneworld flight). Not on out of allaince partners unless expressly stated.
On the day of the flight the passenger status may be higher, the same or lower than the status at time of booking.
In this case QF seems to be just a travel agent selling HK Airlines tag on flights.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/network-and-partner-airlines.html

 

[DejaBrew]

But HK Airpines isnt part of Oneworld, and doesn’t have any affiliation with Qantas. I’d be pleasantly surprised if they honoured the extra allowance based on qantas status (unless that’s already reflected on the ticket).

I would expect QF or OW status [extra] benefits to only apply to the QF flight (or a oneworld flight). Not on out of allaince partners unless expressly stated.
On the day of the flight the passenger status may be higher, the same or lower than the status at time of booking.
In this case QF seems to be just a travel agent selling HK Airlines tag on flights.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/network-and-partner-airlines.html

But assuming an interline agreement is in place, wouldn't that mean that the MSC rule applies?

I know that if Qantas is the marketing carrier on a flight operated by another airline, then the Qantas allowance would normally apply, whilst for interline, the MSC rule applies. But in this case, the MSC would be Qantas.

Not an expert on the matter - that's just my read on it. Would happily be corrected by someone with more accurate knowledge on the matter.

 

[MELso]

I would imagine the baggage rules are governed by the Most Significant Carrier rule applies here, meaning that your baggage allowance should be based on your Qantas allowance. Checking the HK Airlines site, it would seem that they only offer 23kg checked luggage, so if your ticket states 30kg, then that would be your standard Qantas allowance and this should be applying to the whole journey. I would therefore expect any OW Status to further add to your allowance.

To go further, as HK Airlines is flying within the same IATA sub-area, but Qantas is the first carrier crossing it, it would be Qantas' rules.

Help and Support | Qantas

help.qantas.com

 

[drakdaystar]

My guess is it will depend on whether I need to pick up my baggage in Hong Kong. Do folks know whether there is an interline agreement in place between HK Airlines and Qantas?

 

[serfty]

My guess is it will depend on whether I need to pick up my baggage in Hong Kong. Do folks know whether there is an interline agreement in place between HK Airlines and Qantas?

Yes there is (from Expert Flyer):

Interline Agreements for HX

E-Ticket Interline Agreements
        AC        AE        AI        AM        AS        AY      
        BA        BI        BR        B7        CI        CN      
        CZ        DL        EK        ET        EY        FJ      
        FM        FV        GA        GJ        GK        GS      
        GX        HA        HO        HR        HU        JD      
        JQ        JX        KC        KL        KQ        K6      
        LH        LY        MF        MH        MK        MU      
        NH        NX        NZ        OM        OZ        PG      
        PR        PS        PX        QF        QR        SA      
        SK        SQ        TG        UA        UK        UL      
        VA        VN        VS        WS        W2        Y8      
        ZH        3A        3U        8L        8S        9B      
       
Paper Ticket and Baggage Interline Agreements
MAY ISSUE TICKETS INCLUDING
       AC  AE  AF  AI  AM  AS  AY  BA  BG  BI  BL  BR  B2  B7
       CI  CN  CZ  DL  EK  ET  EY  FJ  FM  FV  GA  GF  GJ  GK
       GS  GX  HA  HM  HO  HR  HU  JD  JQ  JX  KC  KL  KQ  K6
       LH  LO  LX  LY  MF  MH  MK  MU  NH  NX  NZ  OM  OV  OZ
       PG  PR  PS  PX  QF  QR  RJ  SA  SK  SQ  SU  S7  TG  TP
       UA  UK  UL  UO  UT  VA  VN  VS  VV  WS  W2  Y8  ZH  3A
       3U  8L  8S  9B  9W                                    
 
   MAY CHECK BAGGAGE TO
       AC  AE  AF  AI  AM  AS  AY  BA  BG  BI  BL  BR  B2  B7
       CI  CN  CZ  DL  EK  ET  EY  FJ  FM  FV  GA  GF  GJ  GK
       GS  GX  HA  HM  HO  HR  HU  JD  JQ  JX  KC  KL  KQ  K6
       LH  LO  LX  LY  MF  MH  MK  MU  NH  NX  NZ  OM  OV  OZ
       PG  PR  PS  PX  QF  QR  RJ  SA  SK  SQ  SU  S7  TG  TP
       UA  UK  UL  UO  UT  VA  VN  VS  VV  WS  W2  Y8  ZH  3A
       3U  8L  8S  9B  9W

(otherwise it would be unlikely such a through fare would be sold).

 

[drakdaystar]

Yes there is (from Expert Flyer):

Interline Agreements for HX

E-Ticket Interline Agreements
        AC        AE        AI        AM        AS        AY     
        BA        BI        BR        B7        CI        CN     
        CZ        DL        EK        ET        EY        FJ     
        FM        FV        GA        GJ        GK        GS     
        GX        HA        HO        HR        HU        JD     
        JQ        JX        KC        KL        KQ        K6     
        LH        LY        MF        MH        MK        MU     
        NH        NX        NZ        OM        OZ        PG     
        PR        PS        PX        QF        QR        SA     
        SK        SQ        TG        UA        UK        UL     
        VA        VN        VS        WS        W2        Y8     
        ZH        3A        3U        8L        8S        9B     
      
Paper Ticket and Baggage Interline Agreements
MAY ISSUE TICKETS INCLUDING
       AC  AE  AF  AI  AM  AS  AY  BA  BG  BI  BL  BR  B2  B7
       CI  CN  CZ  DL  EK  ET  EY  FJ  FM  FV  GA  GF  GJ  GK
       GS  GX  HA  HM  HO  HR  HU  JD  JQ  JX  KC  KL  KQ  K6
       LH  LO  LX  LY  MF  MH  MK  MU  NH  NX  NZ  OM  OV  OZ
       PG  PR  PS  PX  QF  QR  RJ  SA  SK  SQ  SU  S7  TG  TP
       UA  UK  UL  UO  UT  VA  VN  VS  VV  WS  W2  Y8  ZH  3A
       3U  8L  8S  9B  9W                                   
 
   MAY CHECK BAGGAGE TO
       AC  AE  AF  AI  AM  AS  AY  BA  BG  BI  BL  BR  B2  B7
       CI  CN  CZ  DL  EK  ET  EY  FJ  FM  FV  GA  GF  GJ  GK
       GS  GX  HA  HM  HO  HR  HU  JD  JQ  JX  KC  KL  KQ  K6
       LH  LO  LX  LY  MF  MH  MK  MU  NH  NX  NZ  OM  OV  OZ
       PG  PR  PS  PX  QF  QR  RJ  SA  SK  SQ  SU  S7  TG  TP
       UA  UK  UL  UO  UT  VA  VN  VS  VV  WS  W2  Y8  ZH  3A
       3U  8L  8S  9B  9W

(otherwise it would be unlikely such a through fare would be sold).

Thanks!! Is there anything I can do beforehand to ensure that my 50kg is correctly registered? Or just turn up at the airport and whatever happens happens?

 

[DejaBrew]

Thanks!! Is there anything I can do beforehand to ensure that my 50kg is correctly registered? Or just turn up at the airport and whatever happens happens?

1. Make sure your QFF Number is tagged to your booking.
2. Turn up to the check in desk ready to educate them on facts. Have the relevant details to hand.

 

[williamsf1]

MSC allowances only apply to ticketed level eg 30kg for you

As HX is not OW they do not offer aditional benifits when you check in with them