Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I'm saying opening up fully at vax rates closer to 90% will be much more favourable than 80% which is what has been modelled.

At that point it probably doesn't matter if the unvaccinated are out too.

I think you are overestimated the number of people who wouldn't take the second dose. It will be a very small number.

I'm not making any estimation of those not taking a second dose. Some people might choose to play games with the current mandatory vaccination rules for some occupations. A hardcore anti-vaxxer in a mandatory vaccination occupation will also try to find a way to fraudulently comply.

You are arguing for a different policy to what the NSW authorities might be doing. I'm hoping for something similar to what you are suggesting, but it doesn't look like its happening.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Elderly wanting to have free choice - ie get Pfizer wouldn't have had their choice enabled despite sufficient supplies by November.

The rest of the country should not be held to wait for these people.

I support free choice but not to the extent it costs the entire country.

They can sit at home and shield until they are able to receive their "preferred" vaccine.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The rest of the country should not be held to wait for these people.

I support free choice but not to the extent it costs the entire country.

They can sit at home and shield until they are able to receive their "preferred" vaccine.

I don't know why you think anyone is held back because of others making a "unique"/non-preferred choice.

Doherty is going ahead when the marks at met - clearly they are going to be met without those wanting to make their own choice of vaccine.

 

[justinbrett]

I'm not making any estimation of those not taking a second dose. Some people might choose to play games with the current mandatory vaccination rules for some occupations. A hardcore anti-vaxxer in a mandatory vaccination occupation will also try to find a way to fraudulently comply.

You are arguing for a different policy to what the NSW authorities might be doing. I'm hoping for something similar to what you are suggesting, but it doesn't look like its happening.

I'm trying to bring some positivity back...

NSW is almost certainly going to hit 90% single dose, and soon. The first jab vs second jab ratio hasn't slowed and I know of many who are waiting months to get their first Pfizer jab. At current rate we will hit 90% single jab in less than 3 weeks.

I am confident (as are the Premier and CHO, who have said the same) that almost everybody who gets their first jab will get their second.

Due to the lag between first and second doses, it's almost certain when we hit 80% double jab, the single jab figure will have slowed dramatically, as there shouldn't be any wait in the urban areas.

Let's not get too pessimistic about what hypothetical people may or may not do at some point in the future, we are in an excellent position and the future is looking bright.

 

[jakeseven7]

Dan heavily promoting that there will be lockouts for the unvaccinated. Saying no sports, no pubs etc. unless you can prove a double jab, coming soon.

Hopefully motivates people to get vaccinated.

This is brilliant more please

 

[N860CR]

I support free choice but not to the extent it costs the entire country.

They can sit at home and shield until they are able to receive their "preferred" vaccine.

This. Spot on.

I don’t get the lockdown lovers pushing to continue with this when it’s not required. As I’ve always said, if you want to lockdown then lockdown. Nobody is dragging anyone out of their house and forcing them to have lunch at a cafe (nor fly to Uruguay).

If certain people want a certain brand of vaccine because tabloid media has told them it’s better, then they can sit on their hands at home and wait.

 

[hydrabyss]

Came across this a short time ago.
Queensland girl, 4, tests positive for COVID-19

 

[suze2000]

I don't know a lot about politics but isn't there some way her own party can kick her out and put another Labor in her place? Someone who is more reasonable about borders?

You're assuming that she's not hugely popular in QLD. She is largely viewed as having protected the population from what's happening Down South.

 

[jakeseven7]

You're assuming that she's not hugely popular in QLD. She is largely viewed as having protected the population from what's happening Down South.

Her popularity is on the slide up here because people are starting to question why we are so far behind in our vaccination program.

The tourism industry is also launching torpedos every 15 minutes towards every level of government here and you know they employ a few people round these parts!

After the news today many hotels in QLD are at less than 10% occupancy begs the question how much longer can they survive…

 

[jakeseven7]

Makes sense, we know of one team who were seconded to help out have already been ‘returned’ to their normal duties. Once you hit a couple of hundred a day for a couple of days contact tracing is as good as dead anyway.

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NSW to scale down contact tracing​

The NSW government will significantly scale down its contact tracing as COVID-19 vaccination rates rise, instead relying on people being alerted via their smartphones when they have been at a venue of concern.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw...alert-for-exposure-sites-20210902-p58o96.html

 

[jakeseven7]

Bit late mate… oh well!

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Sydney tree lopper makes teary apology to Newcastle from COVID-19 hospital bed​

The COVID-positive owner of a Sydney tree-lopping business that sent workers doorknocking in the New South Wales Hunter region has broken down as he apologised for potentially further exposing the region.

'I'm so sorry': Sydney man makes teary apology for exposing region to COVID

From his hospital bed, the business owner says he is ready to face the consequences after his team exposed residents in the Hunter to COVID-19 during two weeks of door-knocking.

www.abc.net.au

 

[jakeseven7]

This has been my continued observation in QLD for months and months, no one is taking anything seriously up here…

Whoops!

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Just one person at Qld site of concern used check-in app​

Queensland health authorities have expressed frustration at the small number of people who are checking in using the government’s app.

The truck driver who has tested positive attended the Stylish Nails salon at the Beenleigh Marketplace last Monday, August 23, and authorities have issues contact tracing alerts.

Just one person has checked in at the site of concern. More to come.

As it happened: NSW recorded 1533 new cases and four new deaths on Saturday, Victoria reported 190 new local infections

The coronavirus pandemic continues to affect events across Australia with television’s night of nights, the Logie Awards, the latest casualty after it was cancelled for the second year in a row.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Lynda2475]

The truck driver who has tested positive attended the Stylish Nails salon

Who knew mani pedis were so popular with truckies

The salon i go to wont let you past the entrance without checking in, pretty simple to enforce in such a premises.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Who knew mani pedis were so popular with truckies

The salon i go to wont let you past the entrance without checking in, pretty simple to enforce in such a premises.

Yes same with the salon I go to. They have been checking everyone’s phone at the door for as long as I can remember and well before the Bondi outbreak.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

I really think NSW should cut their press conferences down to one every two or three days, they dont serve much purpose outside of what could be announced via media for numbers etc. too much of a focus on cases, rest of the world is moving on and Aussies need to start shifting their mindset away from case=disaster

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433918979370889218

 

[Batterytraveller]

Makes sense, we know of one team who were seconded to help out have already been ‘returned’ to their normal duties. Once you hit a couple of hundred a day for a couple of days contact tracing is as good as dead anyway.

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NSW to scale down contact tracing​

The NSW government will significantly scale down its contact tracing as COVID-19 vaccination rates rise, instead relying on people being alerted via their smartphones when they have been at a venue of concern.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw...alert-for-exposure-sites-20210902-p58o96.html

This is concerning. We need TTIQ to be functional even at high rates of vaccination. Automatic alerts are useful but not a replacement, especially as we don’t have an exposure notification system other than check-ins and contact tracing.

Obviously we need a to manage our way from pandemic to endemic but this is at best an admission that the system has failed. It’s all happening a bit too soon with respect to the vaccine rollout. October is shaping up to be pretty brutal.

 

[OATEK]

This is concerning. We need TTIQ to be functional even at high rates of vaccination. Automatic alerts are useful but not a replacement, especially as we don’t have an exposure notification system other than check-ins and contact tracing.

Obviously we need a to manage our way from pandemic to endemic but this is at best an admission that the system has failed. It’s all happening a bit too soon with respect to the vaccine rollout. October is shaping up to be pretty brutal.

As true as this may be, if the system has failed then it has done so much later than in other parts of the world. And everything I have heard about NSW is that they have done a lot of work to prepare for this.

 

[ketsuzei]

Like Gladys I'm not really a fan of using a model to predict exact numbers and dates, the inputs change too much. Ranges and trends I feel more comfortable with.

But if pushed I'd be predicting below 2000, in fact probably below 1500 but as everyone would know the numbers jump around a lot so a couple of bad days would change the prediction a fair bit (the trend not so much). When does it fall below 1, I'll be an optimist and say before mid September, possible as soon as 7-10 days. But once again, a few bad days would blow this out but probably only by a week or so, I think the general mid-Sept figure is not far off.

Who ever would have thought that epidemiological dynamics turn out to be more complicated than just eyeballing moving averages?

 

[Princess Fiona]

I really think NSW should cut their press conferences down to one every two or three days, they dont serve much purpose outside of what could be announced via media for numbers etc. too much of a focus on cases, rest of the world is moving on and Aussies need to start shifting their mindset away from case=disaster

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433918979370889218

I totally disagree.
We need to keep the momentum for vaccination going and the press conference is one of the vital ways of doing that.
Once the job is done then yes scale them back.

 

[jase05]

I haven’t heard what the link is between the QLD truckie and the 4yo girl is. Daughter of a co-worker?