Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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The question really is just why are Victoria and Brisbane declared Medium.
If they were Low Risk, then WA residents could return home and isolate. As it stands they are basically begging to return to their own state.
Because the definitions don't mean anything.

Anyone expecting an open, honest, and reliable approach to COVID-19 from state governments within Australia is not going to get it. NSW a possible exception.

I remember posting the phrase "sovereign risk through the roof" a while ago. It is more true now than ever.
 
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Because the definitions don't mean anything.

Anyone expecting an open, honest, and reliable approach to COVID-19 from state governments within Australia is not going to get it. NSW a possible exception.

I remember posting the phrase "sovereign risk through the roof" a while ago. It is more true now than ever.
Certainly, in WA it is too much to expect a proportionate response based on transparent health advice
 
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Because the definitions don't mean anything.

Anyone expecting an open, honest, and reliable approach to COVID-19 from state governments within Australia is not going to get it. NSW a possible exception.

I remember posting the phrase "sovereign risk through the roof" a while ago. It is more true now than ever.

The approach by the various state governments is pretty clear to most observers. NSW, Vic, QLD, WA, etc. All pretty predictable.

Perhaps the trouble comes when people are hoping for something different? This remains foremost a health issue, not economic. if people can overcome the latter nothing the states do is unusual or surprising.
 
There was an editorial in the SMH yesterday re Prof Chen being the one to insist to the deputy Vic Premier that hard border with all of NSW was urgently needed (despite the green zones not having any cases), stranding the many Victorians in NSW. A case of an epidemiologist not considering what a reasonable time is for people to safely drive from Northern NSW to Vic border, not considering the time it would take to ramp up testing and not considering the fact that Vic isnt able to adequately staff the permit review system which was hastily reintroduced. Over a week later and some 3K plus permits lodged but less than 200 reviewed = pitiful. Over-reaction further proved by zero cases in regional NSW including in those stranded Victorians from green zones coming down with Covid.

The Berala case that travelled to regional areas did so on 2nd Jan which was after Vic had already introduced the hard border so cant be used to justify the nonsensical decision to close to all of NSW. Those in the green zones could have been given a couple of days to get back to Vic without there being a heightened risk.

The only covid cases cases outside of Greater Sydney (including Wollongong, Central Coast and Blue Mountains) in a regional area since NB cluster began was the Bermagui one, which was actually a case of Victorians coming into NSW, not regional NSW bringing the virus into Vic.

Vic havent been able to identify a NSW resident that brought NB strain to Vic, everything points towards returing Victorians (who clearly didnt isolate after being in NB). It is Queensland in August all over again - where the Queensland border was shut to Sydney because of Queenslanders returning from Melbourne an actual hotspot (who only transited SYD).

At present only NT, Tas, ACT and Queeensland are implementing hotspot controls. Vic and WA know they dont have any legitimate evidence to close to whole of NSW, or for WA to close to all of Queensland. WA moves are predictable, as its an election winner amongst insular WA residents, rather than a genuine health consideration.

Epidemiolgiss love a disaster scenario, and have a talent for ignoring evidence that NSW have been able to manage local outbreaks, keep cases out of aged care etc. Mary-Louise McClaws is another one that loves to lead with we need stricter controls (irrespective of what is happening locally) and no consideration of impact to mental health and economic impacts which will have much more lasting impacts on the health of most Australians.

Epidemiologist have some premiers so scared, they cant even consult the premiers of the states they are locking out to check what is actually being done as opposed to a scare model the epidemiolgist has put in fron of them. Noting that to date none of these models have remotey panned out in Australia.

Ive said it before and wil say it again, I am forever grateful that I live in NSW, the state with the most pragmatic Premier and CHO. Dr Kerry Chant speaks plainly, is open about what her team do and dont know and have kicked some serious butt wrt to provision of timely information. NSW doesnt over react, makes information based not fear based decisions.
 
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The approach by the various state governments is pretty clear to most observers. NSW, Vic, QLD, WA, etc. All pretty predictable.

Perhaps the trouble comes when people are hoping for something different? This remains foremost a health issue, not economic. if people can overcome the latter nothing the states do is unusual or surprising.

The approach WA took to the outbreak in NSW vs VIC is chalk and cheese.
 
its important to a certain event occurring in March in WA ;-)

- WA forget them until March, 100% political.

I'm sure post March WA Gov will also change their mind too

WA should also be doing the same but they appear even more hopelessly transfixed with their appointment looming in March

There is a date in March far far more important than Christmas I’m afraid

WA: Still asleep, dreaming of March

March looms and that is on their mind.....

3 have ridden the virus to re-election, soon to be 4 in March

Because it’s part of a strategy for a date in March

I think even the more obtuse among us have got your point by now.
 
@ Lynda... I believe the number of exemptions considered is approaching 800, not 200. But that’s still very slow

I heard 178 on ABC breakfast this morning, but it seems that was the number of approvals. Either way still pathetically slow.

If Vic truely believe it is so dangerous to have been in regional NSW in last 2 weeks you'd think they'd be working faster to extrat their residents to the supposed safety of iso in Vic.

Its a poor precedent which ignores criteria for definining hotspots, zero cases in months (or ever in some regions) can not a hotspot be,
 
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On the Brisbane lockdown, shouldn’t the city be locked down while they wait for 28 days of no community transmission?

That’s the yardstick used to justify other measures, such as a border closure...
 
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Anyone know if the VIC team processing exemption applications from Victorian citizens stranded outside Victoria works at the weekends?
 
On the Brisbane lockdown, shouldn’t the city be locked down while they wait for 28 days of no community transmission?

That’s the yardstick used to justify other measures, such as a border closure...

Ask some of the experts on here who think they can predict every single ‘totally predictable’ decision by the predictable state governments :)

If I’d known we had such crystal ball experts could have saved my business thousands 😂 (and asked for some lotto numbers at the same time!).

Anyway, back in Brisbane the police were called to a party a couple of streets away ;) Covidiots everywhere! Clearly not everyone taking this latest case very seriously.
 
I vote for Bill Bowtell. One of his great early predictions was that Australia would be worse than Italy. They never apologise for past forecasts being wide of the mark but expect you to believe their current view.
 
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