Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Must...Fly!]

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Perhaps.. but a quick read seems to indicate some less than diligent science is being utilised to make us all safe…..

Perhaps, however the piece provides no insight in to how we reach COVID zero again nor the costs (both literal and non-literal), despite it being the premise of the article. It goes only as far as to point out that Taiwan has been more successful in suppressing the outbreak there. However, it is obviously not noted that in Taiwan, they were fighting Alpha - not Delta.

 

[Batterytraveller]

Non vaccinated groups then? What's up with Cornwall though?

Summer holidays

 

[jakeseven7]

I have tried not to get caught up in the stats but do keep an eye on cases, deaths and hospitalisations in the UK. (I am following the travel restrictions between the US and UK closely because I am caught up in it.) Cases, deaths and hospitalisations are all on the rise. What I don't see is how many are unvaccinated. 80% of the UK adult population (16+) has been double vaccinated.

The reality is that this is what Australia must prepare for, and accept, if any sort of normal life can be returned to. I am still getting the feeling that there are many in Australia not ready for it. (Divide the numbers in these images by 3 to get some rough numbers for Australia.)

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Australians won’t care if it’s just unvaccinated people getting sick, it’s really their choice.

 

[OATEK]

Non vaccinated groups then? What's up with Cornwall though?

I can't make head nor tail of it, I think there may have been some sort of music festival down in Cornwall. Northern Ireland seems to have been like that for ages too. I would like to see more data published on vaccinated v unvaccinated.

Cornwall was well protected in the early phases, so does not have the background immunity from previous cases that say London does. Then there was the super-spreader event called the G7 (with extras), then there was summer holidays.

 

[Pushka]

Australians won’t care if it’s just unvaccinated people getting sick, it’s really their choice.

Sure but it’s the hospital staff who have to deal with their poor choice. And on which policy decisions may be made.

 

[OATEK]

So 882 in Sydney, 2 deaths.

 

[jakeseven7]

So 882 in Sydney, 2 deaths.

Same old. Good vaccination day??

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So 882 in Sydney, 2 deaths.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431421379832791043

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431421379832791043

Snap

....52 on ventilators and a new record positivity rate

NSW Health since yesterday will not provide wild figures and running totals of how many under investigation - last count was high-7000s, now probably 9000s

 

[Lynda2475]

So 882 in Sydney, 2 deaths.

Those were yesterdays numbers

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NSW Health since yesterday will not provide wild figures and running totals of how many under investigation - last count was high-7000s, now probably 9000s

Those numbers are however still provided in the weekly surveillance report, albeit it bit delayed.

 

[OATEK]

So 882 in Sydney, 2 deaths.

Ha, I looked up the Health site around 11:15am so must not have been updated.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic Presser:

• 64 new local cases
• 49 linked to known outbreaks
• 15 under investigation
• 36 in quarantine for full infectious period.
• 701 active cases (697 local, 4 overseas)
• 42 in hospital
• 13 in ICU
• 8 on ventilators

Location of 64 cases today

• 7 Shepparton (The aged care worker at Echuca has now tested negative and so is no longer infectious)
• 10 Broadmeadows
• 7 Carlton
• 1 Al Taqwa
• 1 Dandenong
• 9 To other known cases
• 1 under investigation
• 21 Wester Suburbs
• 7 St Kilda /Port Melbourne

41 coughulative cases under investigation. 20 were linked yesterday.

 

[bcworld]

London isn't the problem. You'd think it would be because of population density,

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Some of the current highest case rates are in parts of Scotland with >95% Vax rates (16+). There is one major difference between Scotland and England...Scottish summer holidays begin and end two weeks before England...Scottish schools have been back for two weeks. English schools return next week so watch this space...

 

[Princess Fiona]

London isn't the problem. You'd think it would be because of population density,

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The West of Scotland figures are in the most part due to Schools going back there.
They have not started vaccinations in 12-16 year olds and less than half of 16/17 yrs have had even their first vaccine.
Daily cases there are higher now than at any time in the pandemic.
They have about ~500 in Hospital and ~50 in ICU
In the past week they had 41 deaths from Covid-19

No plans from the Scottish Govt for a lockdown.
I would imagine there will be a rise in cases for similar reasons once England goes back to school this week.

 

[jase05]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431433193069023235

 

[drron]

This is why Cornwall numbers are surging.
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And i would guess hardly a mask being worn.

Almost 5,000 Covid cases linked to Cornish music and surf festival

Organisers of Boardmasters say event had measures in place ‘above and beyond national guidelines’Coronavirus – latest updates

www.theguardian.com

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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Perhaps.. but a quick read seems to indicate some less than diligent science is being utilised to make us all safe…..

I think that's right - the 'take out' should be that we approach these models, studies and whatever else with an inquisitive mind.

 

[Pushka]

This is why Cornwall numbers are surging.
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And i would guess hardly a mask being worn.

Almost 5,000 Covid cases linked to Cornish music and surf festival

Organisers of Boardmasters say event had measures in place ‘above and beyond national guidelines’Coronavirus – latest updates

www.theguardian.com

Masks no longer required since mid July.

 

[N860CR]

Sure but it’s the hospital staff who have to deal with their poor choice. And on which policy decisions may be made.

To be blunt, that’s their job. It’s similar to a pilot complaining about having to deal with an engine fire. I had a screaming argument with a specialist last week who was annoyed he needed to be redeployed to covid work at westmead and had to cancel some private appointments . It’s a pandemic, so we’re told, so suck it up princess and do what the state pays you for.

 

[Must...Fly!]

To be blunt, that’s their job. It’s similar to a pilot complaining about having to deal with an engine fire. I had a screaming argument with a specialist last week who was annoyed he needed to be redeployed to covid work at westmead and had to cancel some private appointments . It’s a pandemic, so we’re told, so suck it up princess and do what the state pays you for.

I must admit I have a similar struggle of conscience about this topic.

I don't think we should be placing doctors and nurses in dangerous environments if they haven't agreed to that - e.g. joining deployed military medical teams. However there are elements to medicine that do entail risk and sometimes can't be avoided. It surely has to be in the back of your mind when deciding or training to be a medical professional that at some point, you will likely end up endangering yourself in order to help another.

It is not something I champion or think is great in any way, shape or form - but it probably is the reality. Probably the best to respond here would be the medical professional on AFF, if they wish to do so.