Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Still some gyms that may not open. The 1 person per 8sqm is just lunacy and completely out of nowhere
Next Gen will be fine as it’s huge and will put in appointment slots. It will want to earn money again.
 

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Perhaps you forgot the sweaty person rule.....all that exhaling ....aerosols.
Last I checked, people at weddings breathed too...(and sometimes sweaty dancing!)

Just trying to make the point, differing restrictions for what is generally a similar risk factor seems odd. Unless it's more to do with the ability to trace who was there...
 

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Last I checked, people at weddings breathed too...(and sometimes sweaty dancing!)

Just trying to make the point, differing restrictions for what is generally a similar risk factor seems odd. Unless it's more to do with the ability to trace who was there...
People doing active exercise don’t wear masks and they do breathe more heavily: puff out breath in fact, which means aerosol particles spread further.

People at weddings wear masks (or should be in affected states).
 

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Courtesy of ABC reporting

NT tries home quarantine in Alice Springs — but it won't happen in Darwin​

The NT Government has been forced to introduce home quarantine in Alice Springs as quarantining facilities in the region approach capacity.

"Hotels weren't available for us to use, that's reasonable, that's their commercial decision," Chief Minister Michael Gunner said.

"We found that transport by air was much more complicated than we envisaged.

"So as a result we explored the capacity to be able to do home quarantining under a number of different circumstances."

Currently 17 people deemed 'low-risk' have been allowed to move from the Alice Springs facility into their homes, where authorities say they face strict digital monitoring and in-person compliance checks from police.

Mr Gunner said a number of factors are considered before home quarantining is allowed.

"Is the person considered low risk? Where were they in the hotspot? ave they tested negative?," he said.

"We've actually had time to go out and scout locations in advance to make sure it's a suitable location for quarantining."

But Mr Gunner said it was unlikely home quarantining would be used in Darwin.
 

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By Alicia Nally, ABC News

NSW Health has confirmed two more people have died of COVID-19 in Sydney

This sad news just in...

A woman in her 80s passed away at home this afternoon in Pendle Hill.

A man in his 80s passed away this morning in Campbelltown Hospital.

These are the ninth and tenth COVID-19 related deaths from the city's Delta outbreak.

Sixty-six people in NSW have died of COVID-19 since the pandemic began.
 

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An excerpt from the live blog on News.com.au about the lady who passed away at a home in Pendle Hill.


There was a heavy police present at Smith Street in Pendle Hill on Monday afternoon.

NSW Health confirmed just after 5pm that a woman in her 80s had passed away there.

A coroner’s van was spotted heading to the home around the same time.

There are reports there was a large gathering at the same house on the weekend with police attending.

A Pendle Hill home was under police scrutiny over the weekend for hosting 50 grieving family members, in breach of NSW restrictions.

At least 28 people have now contracted Covid-19.
 

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Do you have a link, as all the ones I can find are more no decision till tomorrow?
Behind paywall

Has changed over the last hour or so and seems like a gradual ease in restrictions

A short lockdown extension of up to three days has been considered by public health officials, senior sources have confirmed.
The Herald Sun has been told that the extension would have left current settings in place until Friday.

However, government sources say a gradual easing of restrictions is now the most likely outcome — unless there is a sudden spike of concerning cases on Tuesday.

But it won’t be a quick return to normal life from Wednesday in the wake of Victoria’s fifth lockdown.

It is understood Victoria will revert to a “lockdown lite”, with health officials hoping to hold some restrictions in place until vaccination rates are vastly improved.

“The restrictions are going to be onerous for the next few months,” one source said.

“It’s going to not be worthwhile for a lot of restaurants to open if what is being talked about goes ahead,” another source said. “Not great news for Melbourne.”
 

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It is understood Victoria will revert to a “lockdown lite”, with health officials hoping to hold some restrictions in place until vaccination rates are vastly improved.

“The restrictions are going to be onerous for the next few months,” one source said.

“It’s going to not be worthwhile for a lot of restaurants to open if what is being talked about goes ahead,” another source said. “Not great news for Melbourne.”

That will not be a “lockdown lite”, then but rather lockdown ending (ie the leave home restrictions removed) and coughtail of restrictions that will progressively keep easing. Probably staying quite strict for at least till the 8th August just so we get past a full incubation period and that most people will have finished their quarantine period.

That protest march in Melbourne would not have helped, and the Ms Frankies Cluster will make the authorities nervous on restaurants.

So say initially:
  • I would imagine that people can return to work, but strong emphasis on still working from home when possible. Limits at large workplaces.
  • That mask wearing stay for now including all workplaces.
  • Strict capacity limits on restaurants, pubs etc. rising in a week or two. So big venues may not be viable, but small business gets back to work.
  • No crowds at football etc though for at least say 2 more weekends, and then a limited %.
  • No visitors to the home
Things like live theatre may need to wait another week or so.
 
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Unless they crack down on those not isolating they will be in lockdown until Christmas. Time for Gladys to stop the imploring and start enforcement
As there are such large loopholes & they have painted themselves into a corner - enforcement will be like trying to hold water in a collander.

Unless it is catching people going skiing.

We are allowed to exercise up to 10km from home and can meet up with someone who is nearly 20km away to exercise without masks = wonderful spreading mechanism as one who is asymptomatic pumps a high viral load out as they walk around and wait for their coffees.

Contact tracing has only identified around 13 major chains and there are over 500 unlinked cases (so 500 new chains) to which househiold contacts & workplace or shopping contacts have been linked.

Meanwhile last week Brad Hazzard abruptly jumped down any journalist's throat when they tried for three days to ask whether exercising may be the real reason behind spreading. "No matter how many times you ask the question, my answer won't change. There will be no limits on exercising."

As some have pointed out in earlier posts, this NSW attitude seems to meet the definition of insanity.

Equally when asked what 'harder' conditions could involve, & perhaps spur more people to take care to avoid 'harder' restrictions - "I don't engage in hypotheticals."

At this rate the virus spread will see Sydney easily beat out Melbourne for longest lockdown :eek:
 

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Agreed.

I actually think diverting Pfizer vaccines away from the other states is not the right choice. While yes it may be in the short term, the reality is that Delta IS infectious, leaks from hotel quarantine WILL continue to occur and it completely impossible to predict where. In that context, as broad an immunity as we can obtain across the country will serve us best.

However, every unused dose of Astra-Zeneca sitting on storage shelves should be going straight to NSW. That will be replaced quickly enough by freshly manufactured doses from CSL.
There are millions of AZ doses in extended storage as all States have not accepted/requested their latest offerings. NSW has formally turned down receipt of over 600,000 AZ doses but this is getting near zero coverage as it would not look good refusing to take available AZ into the State system whilst demanding Pfizer vaccines instead.
 

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At this rate the virus spread will see Sydney easily beat out Melbourne for longest lockdown :eek:
IMO it will actually cause serious ongoing outbreaks everywhere in Australia. (Well, maybe not WA).

Of course, I could be wrong...
 
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I'm sitting in Tasmania with a bunch of work to do in NSW, so I'm constantly talking to our NSW clients. I'm not there, so can't comment from personal observation of the lockdown but the consistent report I get is no-one is taking it seriously. We've lost work in regional NSW to people travelling from Sydney. How does that happen in any sort of logical lock-down scenario?
 

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Rapid tests should absolutely be deployed in Sydney at the moment - the reluctance on that is frustrating.

My understanding is that while they sometimes report false positives (inconvenient), they don't report false negatives (problematic).

In what context would you use them?

Sydney is already running 3-day testing on a lot of people in the most infected LGAs.
 
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