Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[RooFlyer]

Well, there you go. Such are the adances in medical science that infectious outbreaks are now able to be ended by Public Health statements.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

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Well, there you go. Such are the adances in medical science that infectious outbreaks are now able to be ended by Public Health statements.

As opposed to it just being based quarantine and testing protocols with the advice that they are no longer required?

I would have just gone with it just being that the possible incubation period has now been exceeded with no new cases developing. And that would have been determined by the testing that the unit will have performed. Extraction of any positive cases allowing the total period to be reduced than if they had of remained.

This is really is not that much different from a household being released from quarantine. There were just more people in the "household". Households are also advised by public health when they are free to no longer quarantine.

 

[RooFlyer]

As opposed to it just being based quarantine and testing protocols with the advice that they are no longer required?

Based on the quote you presented, and I quoted ... yes!!

 

[dajop]

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Well, there you go. Such are the adances in medical science that infectious outbreaks are now able to be ended by Public Health statements.

Hang on, it wasn't ended a public health "statement" that "ended the outbreak". Rather that Arcare made a statement that it had been advised (by the experts - the public health unit) that the outbreak is over. I'm not sure else would be the right people to advise that an outbreak is over, an investigative Journalist at the Australian? The CHO himself? The on-call nurse at the facility?

But hey's it's Victoria. It must have been done wrong!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Based on the quote you presented, and I quoted ... yes!!

I do not follow your logic at all. Where does it state, or even suggest, that infectious outbreaks are now able to be ended by Public Health statements

1/ As opposed to it being public health advice that the outbreak was over?

2/ The statement was also released by Arcare, and not by Public Health Officials. (So there actually is not a even Public Health Statement mentioned)

 

[RooFlyer]

I do not follow your logic at all. Where does it state that an infectious outbreak are now able to be ended by Public Health statements

Oh dear. Here we go again. You move the goal posts. Let me explain.

You posted:



I replied:

Well, there you go. Such are the adances in medical science that infectious outbreaks are now able to be ended by Public Health statements.

Public? Yes ... its available to you and me. Health statement? yes, I think thats obvious (well, to me, anyway )


I know this is going to go on and on and on forever, with nit-picking on the dictionary definition of every word, so go ahead. But honestly, its trivial, no-one cares, so knock yourself out, and obsess on it. I'm going to watch some telly.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Oh dear. Here we go again. You move the goal posts. Let me explain.

You posted:

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I replied:



Public? Yes ... its available to you and me. Health statement? yes, I think thats obvious (well, to me, anyway )


I know this is going to go on and on and on forever, with nit-picking on the dictionary definition of every word, so go ahead. But honestly, its trivial, no-one cares, so knock yourself out, and obsess on it. I'm going to watch some telly.

LOL, well there you go. I would have thought the meaning of what Liam Butterworth from the ABC wrote was pretty clear.


And I doubt that very few people would regard a statement from a privately held aged care facility as a Public Health statement.

 

[OATEK]

I know this is going to go on and on and on forever, with nit-picking on the dictionary definition of every word, so go ahead. But honestly, its trivial, no-one cares, so knock yourself out, and obsess on it.

And I doubt that very few people would regard a statement from a privately held aged care facility as a Public Health statement.

Snap!

The article says the Western Public Health Unit declared the outbreak over, so it does seem to suggest it is based on a public health statement.

I can't speak for the OP, but to me the article seemed to suggest the outbreak was declared over in an officious manner rather than it being confirmed that being x days after the last infection that it is over. Not a big enough deal for an argument.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

NSW Health has issued another public health alert on new venues that are exposure sites,

Noteworthy is that includes two sites with an exposure period suggestive of a case having worked all day.

• ANZ Branch
• Fresh Nails

Also notable is those who attended Belle Cafe for takeway orders, and not just dine in customers, must now isolate for 14 days regardless of the result.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1406925967075942403

 

[dajop]

I can't speak for the OP, but to me the article seemed to suggest the outbreak was declared over in an officious manner rather than it being confirmed that being x days after the last infection that it is over. Not a big enough deal for an argument.

I'm pretty sure if it had been any other state it wouldn't have been raised at all.

Who cares whether someone publicly declares it over, or privately advises it's over. Or makes a statement or doesn't, it's almost nitpicky to the nth degree. I think we can all agree .. it's over!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I'm pretty sure if it had been any other state it wouldn't have been raised at all.

Who cares whether someone publicly declares it over, or privately advises it's over. Or makes a statement or doesn't, it's almost nitpicky to the nth degree. I think we can all agree .. it's over!

Indeed, which is why I posted the journalist's online news report as I thought it very clear advice requiring no explanation that the outbreak at the Arcare Maidstone Facility was over as per advice from Western Public Health Unit.


It was important that Arcare knew that ASAP as they can then change how they operate, and more importantly so that the residents get to live more normal lives again.

Including the resident who now gets to go back to their home there instead of being in my daughter's ward having been removed from Arcare Maidstone to 1/ protect them as they were a very high risk individual, and 2/ to protect others for if they actually developed Covid their condition could easily have made them a very high risk spreader, which is why they were moved to a negative pressure room, complete with ante-chamber.

 

[OATEK]

I'm pretty sure if it had been any other state it wouldn't have been raised at all.

Who cares whether someone publicly declares it over, or privately advises it's over. Or makes a statement or doesn't, it's almost nitpicky to the nth degree. I think we can all agree .. it's over!

And I am more than pretty sure that it was the way the notice was presented had more to do with it (in my case) than the state where it occurred. I must check some of the NSW clusters to see if something similar gets posted - perhaps it does?

 

[Princess Fiona]

And I am more than pretty sure that it was the way the notice was presented had more to do with it (in my case) than the state where it occurred. I must check some of the NSW clusters to see if something similar gets posted - perhaps it does?

There are National guidelines and definitions of an outbreak in a residential aged care facility.
It’s nothing special in Victoria and perfectly reasonable and normal for Public Health to issue guidance that the outbreak is over.
Definition of an outbreak
An outbreak is a single confirmed case of COVID-19 in a resident, staff member or frequent attendee of a residential aged care facility.

This definition:

• does not include a single case of an infrequent visitor to the facility
• is a guideline
• is used by the state or territory public health unit to help decide whether to declare an outbreak

Declaring an outbreak over​

The state or territory public health unit is responsible for deciding and declaring when an outbreak is over.

Repeat testing is essential to closely monitor an outbreak. In most cases, the public health unit can declare the outbreak is over when the last case tests negative after 14 days of isolation.

Health

 

[RooFlyer]

The telly was interesting. Did I miss anything?

Ah.

I can't speak for the OP, but to me the article seemed to suggest the outbreak was declared over in an officious manner rather than it being confirmed that being x days after the last infection that it is over. Not a big enough deal for an argument.

(My bolding) Precisely, on both counts - I'm glad someone 'got it'.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From the ABC.

— New Zealand has announced that Victorians will be able to fly there quarantine-free from midnight tonight.

Tasmania and the Northern Territory are also welcoming people travelling from Victoria, but Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia aren't there yet.

 

[SydneySwan]

From the ABC.

— New Zealand has announced that Victorians will be able to fly there quarantine-free from midnight tonight.

Tasmania and the Northern Territory are also welcoming people travelling from Victoria, but Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia aren't there yet.

Of course it goes without saying that NSW is open to Vic.

 

[jakeseven7]

Fleeting transmission means what now

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Call for rethink of social distancing to counter fleeting infection​

Social distancing, density rules, QR check-ins and the COVIDSafe app need to be reassessed and strengthened after NSW and Victoria found evidence of “fleeting” infection, with experts calling for greater focus on ensuring air ventilation and a more cautious approach to the highly infectious delta variant.

Call for rethink of social distancing to counter ‘fleeting’ infection

Experts are calling for a rethink of social distancing, density limits and the parameters of the CovidSafe app as more evidence of fleeting infection mounts.

www.afr.com

 

[Lynda2475]

COVIDSafe app

I dont know anyone still using this battery draining app.

 

[SydneySwan]

I dont know anyone still using this battery draining app.

My local federal MP still has it on his phone. He is the only person I personally know who still does.