Aust govt removes outbound travel ban exemption for overseas residents

[Seat0B]

not sure he really appreciates just what Australia is like these days with border closures etc.

We have had the same issue with Seat Son. He is living life in a pretty normal way now. Travelling wherever he wants, except home to Australia, of course. Eating in restaurants, drinking in bars, going to the gym. He went wakeboarding with a group of friends last weekend. He is continuing to mix WFH with going to his office and the courts, and really loves the blend of social interaction (as he now lives alone) and intellectual stimulate on office days with peace and quiet and flexibility on WFH days.

He hears our case numbers, but more importantly our ICU and death numbers and just cannot understand how 13 million people can be in strict lock down at such low rates. At 30, he is happily double jabbed with the dreaded AZ.

He really has a different risk appetite, and I’d probably say a more sensible and realistic risk appetite at that, than most of the Aussies I know. And believe me, I NEVER thought I’d say that about him in particular. His teenage years were very stressful while we waited for his pre-frontal cortex to develop!

 

[Flying mermaid]

We have had the same issue with Seat Son. He is living life in a pretty normal way now. Travelling wherever he wants, except home to Australia, of course. Eating in restaurants, drinking in bars, going to the gym. He went wakeboarding with a group of friends last weekend. He is continuing to mix WFH with going to his office and the courts, and really loves the blend of social interaction (as he now lives alone) and intellectual stimulate on office days with peace and quiet and flexibility on WFH days.

He hears our case numbers, but more importantly our ICU and death numbers and just cannot understand how 13 million people can be in strict lock down at such low rates. At 30, he is happily double jabbed with the dreaded AZ.

He really has a different risk appetite, and I’d probably say a more sensible and realistic risk appetite at that, than most of the Aussies I know. And believe me, I NEVER thought I’d say that about him in particular. His teenage years were very stressful while we waited for his pre-frontal cortex to develop!

Master FM keeps telling me that he is not worried about coming because our cases are so much lower than the USA that he doesn’t see it as a problem. I keep trying to explain it’s not cases it’s borders I am worried about.

Qantas has now changed both the bookings I had for him, to 9am on the 21st and 9am on the 22nd - they are now only flying 1 a day to Melbourne. I am leaving both bookings currently until he finds out exactly when he leaves the hotel. If it is after 4pm on the 21st hopefully he can stay the extra night (surely they won’t throw him out if there are no flights!).

 

[mviy]

If it is after 4pm on the 21st hopefully he can stay the extra night (surely they won’t throw him out if there are no flights!).

I would not be so sure of that. I remember seeing an interview on TV with a mother of young kids facing another 14 days in quarantine in her home state because SYD quarantine wouldn't let them stay past the 14 days to stay in the green zone. They also wouldn't let her leave early to catch a flight either.

 

[dajop]

I would not be so sure of that. I remember seeing an interview on TV with a mother of young kids facing another 14 days in quarantine in her home state because SYD quarantine wouldn't let them stay past the 14 days to stay in the green zone. They also wouldn't let her leave early to catch a flight either.

This is where the feds need to step up and facilitate some of the complete and utter faeces - somehow, any which way. But the tagline of the federal government is "We wish it were different ... "

 

[Seat0B]

I would not be so sure of that. I remember seeing an interview on TV with a mother of young kids facing another 14 days in quarantine in her home state because SYD quarantine wouldn't let them stay past the 14 days to stay in the green zone. They also wouldn't let her leave early to catch a flight either.

I must admit I was getting pretty worried about exactly this for Seat Son before the Big Cancellation because of such limited flights between SYD-CBR and the total lack of clarity about when he would be released from quarantine. The authorities are not covering themselves in glory here at all - or even displaying any common sense or empathy for people’s lives.

 

[mviy]

I should add the mother was in hotel quarantine with her kids. I think hotel quarantine was above the intended capacity at the time.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I should add the mother was in hotel quarantine with her kids. I think hotel quarantine was above the intended capacity at the time.

MadRooster told me they had started allowing it - possibly because they have enough capacity now? Anyway it’s one of the questions that worry me. The problem is he will not be allowed to enter Victoria if he doesn’t come straight from hotel quarantine - he is not a Vic resident. If he goes to the ACT he then won’t be able to enter Vic either as we are a red zone, so basically he will be totally stuffed.

Let’s hope some commonsense prevails although we haven’t seen a lot of that over the last 18 months.

 

[drron]

Both going to and back from Hayman Island there were a couple that a few on here could lynch. A fellow who was introduced by his partner as Professor was asked how long he had spent outside Australia in the last 18 months. Well we have gone overseas 6 times this year. On business?No the last time was for the wedding of an Emirates FA we know well in Indonesia.

By his voice he may have a UK passport. Hope the new rules put an end to his travels.

 

[Pushka]

Both going to and back from Hayman Island there were a couple that a few on here could lynch. A fellow who was introduced by his partner as Professor was asked how long he had spent outside Australia in the last 18 months. Well we have gone overseas 6 times this year. On business?No the last time was for the wedding of an Emirates FA we know well in Indonesia.

By his voice he may have a UK passport. Hope the new rules put an end to his travels.

Knowing the exemption process, he could not have been honest with his application for exemption then. I just hope Karma does her bit.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Knowing the exemption process, he could not have been honest with his application for exemption then. I just hope Karma does her bit.

Probably didn’t ask for an exemption - just claimed he lived overseas every time he left…..

 

[Pushka]

Probably didn’t ask for an exemption - just claimed he lived overseas every time he left…..

Not if he had a UK passport - he wouldn't get an exemption to come back in?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Not if he had a UK passport - he wouldn't get an exemption to come back in?

Maybe dual citizen?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Not if he had a UK passport - he wouldn't get an exemption to come back in?

PR!

 

[Pushka]

Maybe dual citizen?

He'd have to use his AU passport to exit Australia though. As per Mel_Traveller, more likely a PR. But it seems weird that he could then claim he is living overseas....

 

[MEL_Traveller]

He'd have to use his AU passport to exit Australia though. As per Mel_Traveller, more likely a PR. But it seems weird that he could then claim he is living overseas....

The rules for maintaining PR are quite generous. You need to be in Australia 2 years out of 5. That doesn’t need to be in a continuous block… quite easy to rack up with a couple months here, couple months overseas, wash rinse and repeat.

This is what I was referring to way back in the thread… how you can be a ‘non-resident’ permanent resident and travel freely out and back in to Australia.

The new rules seem to have made little difference to this.

 

[Seat0B]

Both going to and back from Hayman Island there were a couple that a few on here could lynch. A fellow who was introduced by his partner as Professor was asked how long he had spent outside Australia in the last 18 months. Well we have gone overseas 6 times this year. On business?No the last time was for the wedding of an Emirates FA we know well in Indonesia.

By his voice he may have a UK passport. Hope the new rules put an end to his travels.

Again we need an angry face reply emoji

 

[dajop]

Well we have gone overseas 6 times this year. On business?No the last time was for the wedding of an Emirates FA we know well in Indonesia.

By his voice he may have a UK passport. Hope the new rules put an end to his travels.

Wow. And I here I was starting to feel a bit bad about taking HQ place more than once, albeit 8 months apart. But clearly there are some people who really are taking the urine.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I won’t be posting again for some time but just a bit of info. Madrooster has told me again that quarantine hotels are allowing people to stay an extra night if it is needed, due to lack of flights. So one less thing to worry about.

 

[Seat0B]

That is good news.