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Aus Domestic Sectors on DONE4

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I am doing a DONE4 trip originating Melbourne and going to N-America and Europe before retuening into Sydney for my first stop in Australia after a SIN-SYD sector

I want to do:

SYD-BME
BME-PER
X PER-ADL
X ADL-SYD

But I am being told that I can't go back to my Australian Gateway city but can either stop in ADL or go ADL-MEL.

I can find nothing in the DONE4 fare rules that says I can't do teh Sydney termination but the agent is insiting i can't. All I can find are:

a) I can Open Jaw
b) Max 2 stopovers in Aus
c) 4 sectors in Aus
d) Only one transcontinental sector

Which I am complying with.

Where can I find a definitive copy of the rules and does anyone know the reference in the rules which says I can't do that ADL-ADL Sector

Thanks

Paul
 

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There used to be a rule that meant once you returned to the city of origin the ticket must end. That rule no longer exists. Ask your TA to show you the rule that they are relying on to disallow it, or ask them to humour you and submit your planned itinerary to the airline.
 
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Itinerary starts MEL so I am not going back to city of Origin

MEL-SFO
SFO.... US Cities
ORD-PAR
PAR - ... European Cities
LHR-BKK
BKK-Asian Cities
SIN-SYD

then the Australian sectors listed earlier
 

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Sydney_Firefly said:
Itinerary starts MEL so I am not going back to city of Origin

MEL-SFO
SFO.... US Cities
ORD-PAR
PAR - ... European Cities
LHR-BKK
BKK-Asian Cities
SIN-SYD

then the Australian sectors listed earlier
You are permitted 4 sectors within Australia and 2 stopovers. If they will not do this then I would go direct to AA to book. I would suggest booking AA7306 from SYD-SFO rather than QF73 since you can then insist that the agent book on AA and so avoid the fuel fines that QF will apply

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It looks like your problem may be the maximum on two stopovers in the continent of origin. When you arrive back into Australia, if you stay in Sydney for more than 24 hours, then that is stopover number 1. You have then noted the second stopover being BME and SYD-BME as the first SWP segment.

You can then return to either SYD or MEL so long as no transit is more than 24 hours and you cannot use a non-stop trans-Australia flight since you have already used the max of one of them. So I see no problem with BME-PER-ADL-MEL or BME-PER-ADL-SYD so long as the connections are all transits and not stopovers.
 

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Hi all,

I'm having a similar problem with booking directly through Qantas on a LONE4. Here is part of my proposed itinerary.

MEL-CNS-SYD-MEL-HKG // HNL-SYD-MEL

The two Aus stopovers would be Cairns and Melbourne and I can't see a problem with the sectors.

I specifically asked the telephone sales consultant to check the rule and while she took a long time doing it, she would not quote which rule, provide a copy of the rules or accept my itinerary. We have a preference for booking directly to get bonus points on a Qantas AMEX.

Does anyone know the magic words required to get an itinerary through :?:

Any help is much appreciated.

RP
 

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G'day, rjphin, welocme to AFF.

One suggestion would be to set up your itinerary through through AA. There are many posts on this forum on how to do this.

Your savings in the +++'s (Fuel Fines, Taxes etc) should more than offset the 5-10K bonus points per passenger the Qantas Amex would earn.

As a rough rule of thumb, I rate 10K Qantas FF points as having a 'value' of about $100. YMMV.
 
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