Ask The Pilot

  • Thread starter Thread starter NM
  • Start date Start date
  • Featured
How does an airline handle crew rest on a once a week rotation, such as the new route that Maldvian Airlines have just commenced between Male and Melbourne? Do the crew do the return flight, stay in Melbourne for nearly a week or pax back on the flight they just flew in on?
Routes like this are unlikely to be cost effective.

You could leave the crew in Melbourne, but the accommodation cost alone would add up. You could pax them back on the aircraft they arrived on, but your issue then is where do you then get the crew for the return journey. Slip time isn’t long enough to use the crew that brought the aircraft in, or even to pax a crew in on the arrival flight. So, where else in Oz, or elsewhere, might they have a crew?
 
Routes like this are unlikely to be cost effective.

You could leave the crew in Melbourne, but the accommodation cost alone would add up. You could pax them back on the aircraft they arrived on, but your issue then is where do you then get the crew for the return journey. Slip time isn’t long enough to use the crew that brought the aircraft in, or even to pax a crew in on the arrival flight. So, where else in Oz, or elsewhere, might they have a crew?
I guess what might make it cost effective is it’s the Maldives, so you can charge what you want. Plus the appeal of direct flights means you can charge even more!
 
My last couple of 737 flights we have been a tad late, pilots on the PA advised us on all that they will do their best to ‘make up time’

What sort of things do you actually do to pull back time?
 
My last couple of 737 flights we have been a tad late, pilots on the PA advised us on all that they will do their best to ‘make up time’

What sort of things do you actually do to pull back time?
In reality there is very little that you can do, other than change time zone. Bumping the cruising mach number up a bit, is a very small percentage, and won't save anything worthwhile unless you're on a long leg. And then you're likely to be constrained by the fuel burn. A high speed descent can find a few minutes, but that's completely at the whim of ATC.

I never told people that I'd try to make up time, simply because I wasn't going to.....
 
Thanks JB. Another one I had recently was some turbulence expected low level into Sydney. The PIC told us
‘We will do our best to make it as smooth as possible’. Got me thinking on what they had planned.

Do some pilots simply say too much to passengers some times? A few recent flights I had some that told us likely more than we needed to know.
 
Thanks JB. Another one I had recently was some turbulence expected low level into Sydney. The PIC told us
‘We will do our best to make it as smooth as possible’. Got me thinking on what they had planned.
Probably nothing that they weren't going to do anyway. But, a comment like that might get people to be a bit more accommodating with regard to their seat belts.

Do some pilots simply say too much to passengers some times? A few recent flights I had some that told us likely more than we needed to know.
Absolutely. As in every line of work, there are people who like the sound of their own voice.
 
Maybe the airline can use an AI agent to make those announcements
Airlines have tried fixed scripts. Won't work. If they want rubbish to be said, it won't be said by me.

And an AI...nobody, and I mean nobody, would listen to it.

Or the CEO...people would rip the speakers out.

I always thought that if your talk lasted for more than 60 seconds, you were on for too long.
 
Airlines have tried fixed scripts. Won't work. If they want rubbish to be said, it won't be said by me.

And an AI...nobody, and I mean nobody, would listen to it.

Or the CEO...people would rip the speakers out.

I always thought that if your talk lasted for more than 60 seconds, you were on for too long.
You would have appreciated the communication on our second last QF flight Sin - Per. The only announcements for the entire flight were "Cabin crew be seated for takeoff" and "Cabin crew be seated for landing".
 
Read our AFF credit card guides and start earning more points now.

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

Hey JB, here's another video - QF11 arrival into LAX and go around.


The description says that it was aborted due to "unstable approach". Is this the case?

Whatever, it's always awesome to watch this aircraft do its thing.
 
You would have appreciated the communication on our second last QF flight Sin - Per. The only announcements for the entire flight were "Cabin crew be seated for takeoff" and "Cabin crew be seated for landing".
Ah, a freighter pilot. You can go too far the other way, but I understand.
Hey JB, here's another video - QF11 arrival into LAX and go around.

The description says that it was aborted due to "unstable approach". Is this the case?

Whatever, it's always awesome to watch this aircraft do its thing.
No, there's nothing unstable about the approach. The video's comments, are, as usual, gibberish.

He (or she) looks to have flared a little high, and the touchdown looks a bit late. I'm sure they could have stopped, but there's no point in trying to fix a long flare.
 
He (or she) looks to have flared a little high, and the touchdown looks a bit late. I'm sure they could have stopped, but there's no point in trying to fix a long flare.
At the point where the aircraft made contact with the ground (or so it appears in that video), I assume that the captain makes the go around call? If the FO was PF would the captain take over or just instruct the FO to do so?
 
At the point where the aircraft made contact with the ground (or so it appears in that video), I assume that the captain makes the go around call? If the FO was PF would the captain take over or just instruct the FO to do so?

Either pilot can make a go around call. If the FO is PF they remain PF until a Captain decides it’s better to take over control, which would be very rare.

Even if a Captain could recover an unstable approach better to go around and get both heads “back in the game” per se than for a Captain to take over and fly essentially single pilot to the ground. Especially very close to the ground where time is limited.
 
Hi JB . With QF 2 it has an exemption to able to land before the curfew in Sydney but i believe they can only land from the south.
As there is only one runway and one direction to land on would the A380 be more affected by strong cross winds or tail winds that would have the captain deciding to divert?
If the weather forecast for Sydney was above the maximums to land would you take extra fuel to wait in the air or would you wait in Singapore until you can land on any runway in Sydney?
 
At the point where the aircraft made contact with the ground (or so it appears in that video), I assume that the captain makes the go around call?
Most likely the Captain’s call, but could be either. Another call you might actually get (depending upon the airline rules), is for the FO to continue if the Captain is prepared to accept the long flare. Not something that you’d have on that runway though.
If the FO was PF would the captain take over or just instruct the FO to do so?
No, you just play QFI and tell them what you want. Taking over was quite rare. When the weather was such that an FO might need to do a go around, I let them do the approach and go around, and if I needed to take over (‘cos we operated to different limits for the Captain) I’d do so prior to the next approach.
Even if a Captain could recover an unstable approach better to go around and get both heads “back in the game” per se than for a Captain to take over and fly essentially single pilot to the ground. Especially very close to the ground where time is limited.
It’s best if nobody tries to fix an unstable approach.
Hi JB . With QF 2 it has an exemption to able to land before the curfew in Sydney but i believe they can only land from the south.
As there is only one runway and one direction to land on would the A380 be more affected by strong cross winds or tail winds that would have the captain deciding to divert?
380 had very good wind limitations. They were the highest of any of the types that I flew. Having said that though, there isn’t a great deal of difference between the various types. If suss weather was on the forecast, I’d always have enough fuel to be able to “have a look” before having to divert.
If the weather forecast for Sydney was above the maximums to land would you take extra fuel to wait in the air or would you wait in Singapore until you can land on any runway in Sydney?
That decision is affected by a lot of factors. If there is no chance of it being within the limits, then it’s just as likely that ops control would delay the flight before you even had a look. In the current fuel environment, waiting on the ground would be more attractive than usual. There are a few caveats to it though. One is that once you have a delay to boarding, especially in Singapore, you have a pretty high chance of some passengers going walkabout, and extending the delay even further. For that reason, I preferred to have a captive audience. I might board and then wait at the gate for a while. Holding at the destination will become an issue too. If you delay, you can end up in a worse spot in the stream. Going early might get you to the head of the holding queue. Thinking back on it, I hated it when ops control delayed, as it invariably extended beyond the target delay. I was pretty good at wasting time.
 

Become an AFF member!

Join Australian Frequent Flyer (AFF) for free and unlock insider tips, exclusive deals, and global meetups with 65,000+ frequent flyers.

AFF members can also access our Frequent Flyer Training courses, and upgrade to Fast-track your way to expert traveller status and unlock even more exclusive discounts!

AFF forum abbreviations

Wondering about Y, J or any of the other abbreviations used on our forum?

Check out our guide to common AFF acronyms & abbreviations.
Back
Top