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[Mal]

Shows the same for me too. It will be interesting to see what happens and how they put together the tiers.

I have completed 24 flights since January this year (with still one more to credit from yesterday) but most of my flights were on the cheap fares.

Yep. Thing for me, is that I am probably about 50% towards the lowest/middle tier based on my travel this year (probably even less!)

I think it may be a generic statement (ie "We're reviewing how worthy you are. Hold on to see whether you are worthy")

Waiting for the big announcement. Monday? Hmmm. Will see!

 

[Mal]

So, has anyone not got the 11 August 2007 "Status review - see Account Details" entry on their Account history?

Or anyone seeing anything different when looking at their Account Details?

(I note also that Qantas is due for an announcement this week on a FF shakeup. Will be interesting to compare the two shakeups!)

 

[oz_mark]

I got it as well, and I would assume everyone did. Pity my status doesn't have anything other than 'Active' against it

 

[Sequel]

So, has anyone not got the 11 August 2007 "Status review - see Account Details" entry on their Account history?

I have got that message in the"last 5 activities" box, and in the "account details" box it says "Account Status: Active". So maybe the status review was only looking for accounts with no recent activity, (active vs non-active status) rather than a QF style status? Was the "Account Status: Active" there before?

 

[serfty]

11 Aug 2007 Status review - see Account Details - - 0 0 0

Shows up as a transaction in both the Account Details and activity search.

Interesting with the hyphens, look like a spaces for some notation, perhaps those who 'achieved' a status level would have some additional text. In which case, I guess my 1919 velocity points don't cut the mustard.

 

[simongr]

I can't believe how long this has been string out for...

 

[StevePER]

I can't believe how long this has been string out for...

OK let's speculate some more. If we know from the airport signage that people with status are Gold Virgins and Silver Virgins, what colour will non-status people be called?

 

[stuartfaz]

OK let's speculate some more. If we know from the airport signage that people with status are Gold Virgins and Silver Virgins, what colour will non-status people be called?

By the look of the card...Red Virgins.

 

[pauly7]

The so-called "pincer" action by QF/JQ did not work. JQ had to improve their standards to match Virgin Blue's and Qantas is still trying to lower theirs without further destroying employee (and especially crew) morale. Meanwhile Virgin Blue is operating more profitably than ever before.

I think it's evident that Virgin Blue's product offerings suit the market a lot better than many give them credit for. Viewing or critiquing the way they choose to operate through the prism of how legacy airlines such as QF operate is flawed. What Virgin Blue has achieved in 7 years is remarkable and has forced QF and JQ to play catch-up in many respects.

I doubt that VB's plans for V-Australia and anything else they are currently considering will be rushed out without careful planning.

Hmm but in that time from launching Jetstar QF group has sucessfully maintained its total market share and made record profits so I would say that they have done pretty well....

I don't think it was ever QF's intention to crush Virgin anyway, certainly they 'require' a scale competitor here otherwise there would be public outcry and general instability as new competitors tried to enter...Virgin has morphed from an aggressive competitor to a very well behaved one over the last couple of years... not to the extent that Ansett and Qantas were cosy competitors though of course.

Anyway interesting article which exapands on YY's pincer movement reference - but speculates on Bransons difficult relationship with Toll and his expansion in Asia clipping the wings of Virgin Blue....

Branson to apply double pincer movement on Virgin Blue, Qantas and Jetstar?
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Glenn Dyer writes:

Is Richard Branson running a double pincer movement on Virgin Blue, Qantas and Jetstar?

Edit: Sorry the link is protected, will try and find a public version to post[/FONT]

 

[serfty]

It's 'Crikey' subscriber content:

Crikey - Business - Branson to apply double pincer movement on Virgin Blue, Qantas and Jetstar?

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[wallacej]

Shows up as a transaction in both the Account Details and activity search.

Interesting with the hyphens, look like a spaces for some notation, perhaps those who 'achieved' a status level would have some additional text. In which case, I guess my 1919 velocity points don't cut the mustard.

Mine has nothing. I have completed 25 flights this year with DJ, however status simply says active, and I have no additional text in the line entry.

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[Mal]

So.... When's the big announcement?

Quite sure I'm due to get nothing more than a glossy brochure or email from Velocity, but still curious when the announcement will be made.

As I'm prone to say here - Any improvement from DJ improves the experience for both their customers and also Qantas's! (due to the Qantas reactionary changes caused by REAL competition)

 

[Hvr]

So is there any word yet as to whether there will be a points only program or a points/status credit program?

Government employees are not allowed to accrue FF points in any program when their employer pays for the fare. However, SCs can be accumulated thus ensuring status and meaning that when they are paying their own fares there is a benefit for the airline in that they may well choose them to enhance/retain that status.

Something for VB to consider (or given the imminent release of the details) should have considered.

 

[Whatever]

Hey Hvr

It's certainly a widely held view that Government employees don't earn FF points but more and more departments/agencies are allowing earn. This it agreed at the time of signed a contract with the Airlines.

Regards...W

 

[Hvr]

Hi there W, are you able to name an AUST Govt department where employees are allowed to accept FF points? I'm not aware of any. You may have different knowledge to mine.

Generally only politicians are allowed to accumulate them for personal use.

For a member of the Aust Public Service to accumulate FF points without their employer's consent can lead to a breach of the code of conduct with penalties ranging from a reprimand/fine/demotion, combination of these up to dismissal.

It is generally considered a fairly serious offence.

H.

 

[serfty]

That all relates to the contract the Govt. department has with the carrier.

I have a close relative who worked in CBR for the Oz electoral office (AEC). They had a contract with Ansett and this person was top tier at the time AN went belly up.

The issue here is that his department/employer claimed ownership of said frequent flyer points. In the managerial role he had he would always try, with some success, to use those points his travel had earned for work related purposes. He would not use them for personal travel. Of course, after AN's demise (there went 250K AN points down the tube) it was moot.

Post 9/11 his department negotiated a new contract with Qantas and he became a QF SG within about six months - but no points he was earning.

 

[Mal]

Hey Hvr

It's certainly a widely held view that Government employees don't earn FF points but more and more departments/agencies are allowing earn. This it agreed at the time of signed a contract with the Airlines.

Regards...W

In the public sector it has been a huge battle over the years with this topic. Traditionally, Federal employees would only earn SC's (not points) but some other Govt bodies would still earn points, but their staff were told not to mention their FF Numbers. So under a SC only scheme or a don't quote your number scheme, what happens if someone stuffs up and you earnt both? Or should you not put your number on your booking to ensure that it couldn't happen? Huh?

Of course paid QC memberships were available. How does this work?

State Govt for the various govt's is a similar issue. The rules tend to state no benefits from your flying can accrue to you. Huh?

The whole situation was made much worse when some departments/govt's rejigged their contracts with Qantas and Qantas dropped the condition of no FF points due to the complexity of not awarding them.

So what happens now? I really think the various Govt organisations Australia wide should just accept the fact that FF points are a reasonable reward for travel and that anyone who flies under their ticketing systems should just get the relevant points etc.

 

[kpc]

I'm a public employee in NSW. At one point in the past, we got both points and SCs and could only travel QF. Then the contract with QF was renegotiated, and the rate was cheaper; we did not get points but still got SCs (achieved QF gold with this).

Later still, the corporate travel agent was changed and we could fly any airline we wished D)...that's how I fell in love with SQ! We were not allowed to give the travel agent our FF no. but there was nothing to stop us ringing the airline itself, and add our FF no. to the booking, and hence receive both FF points and SCs. In fact with QF, you can add your FF no. online without having to ring QF!!

Having said that, I have used the points acquired this way for business travel only...I upgraded a work trip on SQ from J --> F with the points

 

[Wunala Dreaming]

Anyone noticed any further changes to their account?

It's disappointing that nothing has yet been announced!

I can only hope Tiers will be in place before my flight on Monday...

Rgds

 

[Whatever]

Hey Wunala D,

Have you had much flight activity on DJ.

W