Any news on QFF and Qatar points / SC?

[shearsense]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

One has to wonder - is QF only begrudgingly part of OneWorld?

 

[zainman]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

You're being too kind, this is not simply a win.
Its like running a 100m race against Usain Bolt and finishing 10 seconds behind.
It's more like getting destroyed by your competition, getting torn to shreds.
The earning is so incomparable it's actually beyond a joke.
What a fail by QF, what a fail.

with EK calling the shots for this one, it's hardly a surprise. QF want you to fly EK/QF alliance.

At least I will now be able to access the QF first lounge in MEL when flying QR J

 

[zachary.august]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

I don't think this is particularly surprising... However, I think that QF needed to protect it's alliance with EK and discourage people from flying QR and if they had frequent flyers patronising QR that wouldn't be very good for them

 

[smit0847]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

At least I will now be able to access the QF first lounge in MEL when flying QR J

I doubt the F Lounge will be staying open for an additional 6 hours just so that you can fly an airline they don't want you to.

 

[serfty]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

It's already on the Qantas Website.

[all fare buckets]
....

Sorry, no earn for 'deep discount' economy... (SNOQ...)

First 100% (AFP)
Business 75% (CDIJ)
Economy 25% (YBHKLMV)

No cabin bonus.

 

[AIRwin]

Double points offer may help a little:
Frequent Flyer - Member Specials - Qatar Airways double Qantas Points offer

 

[zainman]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

I doubt the F Lounge will be staying open for an additional 6 hours just so that you can fly an airline they don't want you to.

I thought it remained open for the EK a380 flight that departs around an hour before the QR flight?

 

[Danger]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Only 75% for Business and 100% for First. Absolutely pathetic.

 

[nonpop]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

At least we get J full SCs

 

[markis10]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

I thought it remained open for the EK a380 flight that departs around an hour before the QR flight?

No, closes at 5.30 or so

 

[QPProletarian]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Sorry, no earn for 'deep discount' economy... (SNOQ...)

First 100% (AFP)
Business 75% (CDIJ)
Economy 25% (YBHKLMV)

No cabin bonus.

I'm quite suprised about the 75% earning for Business but not 25 for economy. No deep discount, but most classes book into full Y SC on QF though. AA have all of these classes apart from Y B as discount economy.

 

[Danger]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Crikey has it.

Memo Qantas Clubbers thinking of flying Qatar Airways: Don't | Plane Talking

 

[knasty]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Crikey has it.

Memo Qantas Clubbers thinking of flying Qatar Airways: Don't | Plane Talking

This raises a very good point. The vast majority of people will just blindly give their QF number having no idea they will get zilch. have a mate who recently paid extra to fly MH vs SQ to get QFF points. I pointed out at .25 he was wasting his time - he should open an AA account, get .75 and get an AA Amex card (he lives in the UK).

 

[cmon0005]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

To me the whole QR sponsorship into OW by BA is more of a knee-jerk/retaliation to QF ditching them for EK, and less of a genuine strategic partnership. Just my opinion...

 

[markis10]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

To me the whole QR sponsorship into OW by BA is more of a knee-jerk/retaliation to QF ditching them for EK, and less of a genuine strategic partnership. Just my opinion...

Similar thoughts could be expressed about QF and MH

 

[cmon0005]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Similar thoughts could be expressed about QF and MH

I think the QF/MH one was strategic, however when they couldn't come to a joint venture agreement, maybe it was already too late to pull the OW sponsorship deal? who knows!
However so far QF have made very little use or incentive of MH till date, my hope was that they would fly to KUL and then codeshare into Asia... anyway...maybe something more will come of that in the future..

 

[tofe]

Double points offer may help a little:
Frequent Flyer - Member Specials - Qatar Airways double Qantas Points offer

great, double of naught is still naught

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

To me the whole QR sponsorship into OW by BA is more of a knee-jerk/retaliation to QF ditching them for EK, and less of a genuine strategic partnership. Just my opinion...

My understanding is that OW have been considering a "Big 3" Middle Eastern airline partner for some time, of which Qatar was the one which bore fruit (Etihad and particularly Emirates don't seem intent on joining an alliance).

 

[cmon0005]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

My understanding is that OW have been considering a "Big 3" Middle Eastern airline partner for some time, of which Qatar was the one which bore fruit (Etihad and particularly Emirates don't seem intent on joining an alliance).

Yes that is true but the alliance itself doesn't invite (that I am aware of) airlines to join, it is up to existing member airlines to sponsor a new airline into the alliance.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Re: Not very good earning rates ...

Yes that is true but the alliance itself doesn't invite (that I am aware of) airlines to join, it is up to existing member airlines to sponsor a new airline into the alliance.

Yes, but Qatar was announced as a join on 9 October 2012, less than a month after Qantas announced it's alliance with Emirates. The negotiations between Qatar and OW leading up to BA's sponsorship of their membership would have been going on for some time (pretty much confirmed by Qatar CEO Al-Baker's protestations until the week before the 9 October announcement that no way was Qatar joining an alliance).