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I guess we will know a lot more once they have analysed the black box data and voice recordings.
I don't think its necessarily Boeing bashing as is the reality of Boeing in 2025 with all their problems they had as well how the way they dealt with Lion Air first Max8 crash came back to bite thrn.
My comment quoted by you was made after your Boeing bashing comment. I don’t have any agenda, flew Qf on the Dreamliner twice in Feb, don’t own shares in Boeing or Qf, do have opinions and interest in software quality and company trust and I’m keen to understand the ultimate cause(s) as a frequent flyer (not an aviation expert). Can’t see how that is Boeing bashing. But anyway ….
And that IMHO is irrelevant in this case, indications are at this early stage that it’s likely to not have anything to do with Boeing. I stand to be corrected, but unlike the Max the fact this is the first hull loss in such a long time is indicative of design not being a factor at play in Boeings case and possibly GE, unless it’s a unforeseen fatigue issue. Skytrans are a case in point with their Dash 8-100 early production model having an issue years later.
Oh I don't think its likely a Boeing issue this time (still possible but highly unlikely) but the remarks were more in line with that the current management will likely keep their heads down and send experts to help figure it out unlike their response last time.
There is much more to minimising hull loss than just aircraft design, and build quality. Contributors to aircraft safety extends beyond the aircraft itself and even beyond aircraft maintenance) even though the outcomes tend to be measured in aircraft hull losses.
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And it may not, but the fact remains that Boeing worked hard to destroy its credibility, and was hugely successful. That has not miraculously recovered from the events of the last few years.
I don’t think I’ve heard anyone pointing at design, though I have to admit that I’ve been somewhat surprised by the lack of protections vs Airbus. That’s a choice, which was always touted as being pro pilot, but I now wonder if it simply wasn’t cheaper.
We drift off topic, but that was an extremely interesting, and dangerous, event that was very well handled. The engines didn’t fail as such, but I think one ended up compressor stalling, and was running at idle, and the other was stuck at quite a high power setting; more than was needed for the approach. It was basically an event called a “stuck throttle” approach, which we practiced in the Macchi, and in which you shut (simulated) the engine down once you’d gotten yourself into a standard forced landing position.
