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tuapekastar

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I think I've just about seen it all now. This is either one very enterprising person, or an out-and-out snake, depending on your POV. A link I found on the AA board at FT..."presenting the AA PLT/GLD challenge info sale on e-bay..."

http://cgi.ebay.com/American-Airline-Platinum-Gold-Elite-Status-Free-Miles_W0QQitemZ5663968533QQcategoryZ19272QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm all for making the most of one's opportunities but I think the FT and AFF communities' info-sharing sits a whole lot better with me than 'selling' stuff like info on AA challenges.
 

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Unbelievable. That is so wrong that somebody else (the seller) is able to profit from the information that is readily available on FewMiles' site. I hope somebody has alerted FewMiles, so that he can ask eBay to take it off.
 

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Unbelievable. That is so wrong that somebody else (the seller) is able to profit from the information that is readily available on FewMiles' site. I hope somebody has alerted FewMiles, so that he can ask eBay to take it off.
I am pretty sure FewMiles does not own the copyright on the information he has published on his site; I can see no reason why someone else cannot offer to provide the information to people prepared to pay for it

When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with money gains some experience but loses some money whilst the man with experience gains some money

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tuapekastar said:
This is either one very enterprising person, or an out-and-out snake, depending on your POV.
A snake IMO, though probably a worthwhile investment for those who purchase said information (and obviously don't know about FT). Enterprising too, in an unethical and slimy way - imagine what reception this person would get at a FT AA do :?:
 

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I wonder if I could make money selling information on eBay about how to use Google to find almost anything you want to know on the internet? Perhaps I could start with "How to use Google to find information on how to attain elite status on a major US airline's FF program".
 
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If you do a quick search on ebay (and any resident ebay'ers will testify to this) - selling a process as infomation is totally fine on ebay. Nothing unethical or illegal about it. If anything - ebay encourages it.

Some other examples of companies selling publically $FREE$ data include:

- Copy of your credit file
- Copy of your insurance file
- Financial companies selling superannuation "setups".

Oh, and my favourite:

- www.frequentflyer.com.au selling access to their document of data which explains how FF points and credit cards work. Even with the information freely available on their own forums!


Most information is freely available on the internet these days anyway... but humans are getting lazier and we want an instantly solution which is exactly what this person is providing.
 

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d00t said:
Most information is freely available on the internet these days anyway... but humans are getting lazier and we want an instantly solution which is exactly what this person is providing.
Not just on the Internet. People will pay for convenience.

If I want my house painted, I can do it myself for no labour cost. Or I can get lazy and pay someone else to do the hard work and present me with a painted house.

Lots of information is available on the Internet. Collating and formatting the information is a service just like opening a paint tin and applying it to the walls is a service. Its just that I am unwilling to pay for such a service, but if someone is willing to pay for that service then that is their decision.
 

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If I want my house painted, I can do it myself for no labour cost. Or I can get lazy and pay someone else to do the hard work and present me with a painted house.
Reminds me of that story why airlines don't sell paint :D .
 

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Reminds me of that story why airlines don't sell paint :D .
As the son of a retired surface coating engineer, I found that one very entertaining :D .
 

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BlacKnox said:
Reminds me of that story why airlines don't sell paint :D .
As the son of a retired surface coating engineer, I found that one very entertaining :D .
For others not familiar with the story, here it is (originally posted by sully).
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Customer: Hi. How much is your paint?

Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things.

Customer: Can you give me a guess? Is there an average price?

Clerk: Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different prices up to $200 a gallon.

Customer: What’s the difference in the paint?

Clerk: Oh, there isn’t any difference; it’s all the same paint.

Customer: Well, then I’d like some of that $12 paint.

Clerk: When do you intend to use the paint?

Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It’s my day off.

Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.

Customer: When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint?

Clerk: You would have to start very late at night in about 3 weeks. But you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue painting until at least Sunday.

Customer: You’ve got to be *&%^#@* kidding!

Clerk: I’ll check and see if we have any paint available.

Customer: You have shelves FULL of paint! I can see it!

Clerk: But it doesn’t mean that we have paint available. We sell only a certain number of gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the price per gallon just went to $16. We don’t have any more $12 paint.

Customer: The price went up as we were talking?

Clerk: Yes, sir. We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a day and since you haven’t actually walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to change. I suggest you purchase your paint as soon as possible. How many gallons do you want?

Customer: Well, maybe five gallons. Make that six, so I’ll have enough.

Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can’t do that. If you buy paint and don’t use it, there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint you already have.

Customer: WHAT?

Clerk: We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall and north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you will lose your remaining gallons of paint.

Customer: What does it matter whether I use all the paint? I already paid you for it!

Clerk: We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used, every drop. If you don’t, it causes us all sorts of problems.

Customer: This is crazy!! I suppose something terrible happens if I don’t keep painting until after Saturday night!

Clerk: Oh yes! Every gallon you bought automatically becomes the $200 paint.

Customer: But what are all these, "Paint on sale from $10 a gallon" signs?

Clerk: Well that’s for our budget paint. It only comes in half-gallons.
One $5 half-gallon will do half a room. The second half-gallon to complete the room is $20. None of the cans have labels, some are empty and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans.

Customer: To hell with this! I’ll buy what I need somewhere else!

Clerk: I don’t think so, sir. You may be able to buy paint for your bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone else, but you won’t be able to paint your connecting hall and stairway from anyone but us. And I should point out, sir, that if you paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon.

Customer: I thought your most expensive paint was $200!

Clerk: That’s if you paint around the room to the point at which you started. A hallway is different.

Customer: And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but only paint in one direction, you’ll confiscate the remaining paint.

Clerk: No, we’ll charge you an extra use fee plus the difference on your next gallon of paint. But I believe you’re getting it now, sir.

Customer: You’re insane!

Clerk: Thanks for painting with United.
 

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No bids on the cardboard QF luggage tag, yet. Who'd've thunk? :roll:

NM said:
Here is another interesting one. First time I have seen one of these up for auction on EBay.
I wonder what I'd get for my $100 OzJet voucher. It's a rare item now. Perhaps it could be used for redemption on one of their charter flights, say when U2 are in town? :wink:
 

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I wonder what I'd get for my $100 OzJet voucher. It's a rare item now. Perhaps it could be used for redemption on one of their charter flights, say when U2 are in town? :wink:
Why don't you give Bono a call and ask him? Maybe he'd like a discount on his 07 charter. :D

Maybe he can flog it off in a charity auction, and that would mean you did your bit for world poverty. :roll:
 

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And here is another unbelievable item for sale on EBay. These things are available by the hundreds at most Australian airports, and someone is trying to sell one for $4!
But this is one of those "Limited Edition Qantas Airways Product" (that's an actual quote from the auction text)! I guess it's "limited" in the strictly mathematical sense that there are not an infinite number of them.

This guy has 441 items for sale. He must be moving house and just listed every piece of junk he owned! Including old (used) suburban train tickets, amongst other things.
 

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I've got a couple of unused AN tickets somewhere. They must be worth something.

And lots of Golden Wing guest passes...
 

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And lots of Golden Wing guest passes...
I see your Golden Wing guest passes and raise you a few dozen QC guest passes...


(woohoo.. 300 posts) :wink:
 
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