Age of exit row passengers - the higher end of the spectrum

[BD1959]

I've sat in an exit row heaps of times this year , not once have i been asked about or informed of any extra safety procedures etc etc

Rows 13 or 14 are my preferred habitat.

Not once this year have I *not* been briefed. Just about to jump on Row 13 of tonight's 694 ... will report back.

Regards,

BD

 

[$CJ]

All passengers seated in the overwing emergency exit rows must receive and respond to a briefing which instructs them in the opening of overwing emergency exits and subsequent actions required in the event of an emergency.

 

[jb747]

This discussion is all rather surprising. I have never seen a crew skip this briefing, on any of the airlines. In any event, it isn't optional, so here's the form you need.....https://www.atsb.gov.au/mandatory/asair-form.aspx

 

[$CJ]

This discussion is all rather surprising. I have never seen a crew skip this briefing, on any of the airlines. In any event, it isn't optional, so here's the form you need.....https://www.atsb.gov.au/mandatory/asair-form.aspx

I think someone is either trolling or missing a stubby. My earlier comments stand though, the FAs are not taking it seriously.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I've sat in an exit row heaps of times this year , not once have i been asked about or informed of any extra safety procedures etc etc

Is this for 737/A320 overwing exits (briefing required) or for A330 or larger aircraft (no briefing required as crew member stationed at the door)?

 

[kevrosmith]

On a QF flight one time, the FA got distracted somehow when doing the final floor check and missed a bag placed under the seat in an exit row. Mistakes do happen, is all I put it down to. If any staff member ever claimed that these types of mistakes *never* happen, they are lying.

I'm always amused by the Pilot's genuine surprise to think that QF staff don't try to get away with things that may not necessarily strictly follow procedure. It may not be their own personal experience, and considering they're a pilot, it's not like other staff are going to share their experiences as to what they attempt to get away with. The crew, including CSMs represent a wide range of people and personalities, and are not all perfect cookie-cutter staff.

In my experience, the delivery of the Exit row safety briefly has been delivered with a wide spectrum of enthusiasm, care-factor and attention to detail, from strict-as-anything through to it's-been-mentioned-to-cover-the-legal-requirement, but it has always been delivered.

 

[Colin 2905]

Interesting thread. I had thought about chiming in earlier, but now that I've actually booked an exit row seat, I will......

I don't fly anywhere near as much as I'd like to, and when I do, it's almost always with Mrs 2905. Trouble is, Mrs 2905 has some mobility issues which preclude her from occupying an exit row seat. We could sit apart.... no, let's not go there.

So today when I booked a flight as part of a little solo jolly, and there weren't any J award seats available, I stumped up the extra few dollars for an exit row seat..... because I can.

 

[BD1959]

Rows 13 or 14 are my preferred habitat.

Not once this year have I *not* been briefed. Just about to jump on Row 13 of tonight's 694 ... will report back.

Briefing executed perfectly, as usual, though my immediate seat companion sat on his briefing card for the entire journey, which probably explains why his jacket never made it to the overhead, but instead flowed out if the seat pocket for the duration.

Have seen less rectified by crew on other occasions.

Gotta love Qantas's consistent inconsistencies!

Regards,

BD

 

[grrofunger]

Is this for 737/A320 overwing exits (briefing required) or for A330 or larger aircraft (no briefing required as crew member stationed at the door)?

Ah OK - Thanks - Yes i travel on A330 and larger.

Sorry for any confusion , I wasn't aware of there being a difference in requirements/regulations on briefings

 

[straitman]

I think someone is either trolling or missing a stubby. My earlier comments stand though, the FAs are not taking it seriously.

Does anyone else not understand this post?

 

[katiebell]

A few years ago I was in 2A on BA LHR-VIE. 1A man not only igneored the briefing but spoke so loudly to his wife in 1C it was not possible to hear the briefing. The stewardess politely asked him not to talk: he continued to talk. He was asked again to be quiet: he told the stewardess to cough* off. The captain was asked to talk to him: still no cooperation, more swearing and DYKWIA threats. We then left the queue for take off and went to a different part of the apron, well away from anything. After a few minutes a minibus pulled up, 6 burly men got out, came up some steps and esorted Mr 1A off the plane. He made all sorts of DYKWIA threats, kept going on about being BA gold etc. When his wife started to get involved ( you can't off load him or his bag: my house keys are in it etc) she was offered the option to disembark and buy a new ticket home to Austria.

Well done BA for not tolerating unacceptable behaviour.

On the other hand several FAs on several airlines have questioned my ability to operate an emergency exit door because I am female and on the smaller side of the bell curve. I politely explain that i am quite capable of operating the door, lifting the weight and acting responsibly as I do it every day in my job. Always accepted but annoying when I see people clearly not fitting the requirements (eg walking sticks) sitting in these seats. Also, the FAs on some airlines are no taller or bigger than me.

 

[Anna]

Does anyone else not understand this post?

If the person is suggesting that the link doesn't work, it works for me.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Always accepted but annoying when I see people clearly not fitting the requirements (eg walking sticks) sitting in these seats. Also, the FAs on some airlines are no taller or bigger than me.

If you see people with walking sticks sitting at exit rows, what happens when you mention this to the crew?

As for FA size - they have done the drills, done the tests. It's assumed they can open the doors. Confirming your ability to open the door is part of their job, and a legal requirement.

 

[katiebell]

If you see people with walking sticks sitting at exit rows, what happens when you mention this to the crew?

As for FA size - they have done the drills, done the tests. It's assumed they can open the doors. Confirming your ability to open the door is part of their job, and a legal requirement.

limping pax with walking sticks should have seating reallocated at checkin or boarding gate and not once boarded. Leaving it until everyone is seated is too late.

I do not mind being asked if I can operate the emergency exit as long as everyone else is asked (i.e. do not assume that anyone is fit to do so) and would prefer that everyone is asked: that is safwer but not always the case. Also, not infrequently the tone is condescending and the words chosen are that I will not be capable rather than confirming that I am capable or, best of all, neutral with no assumptions.

 

[TomVexille]

I do not mind being asked if I can operate the emergency exit as long as everyone else is asked (i.e. do not assume that anyone is fit to do so) and would prefer that everyone is asked: that is safwer but not always the case. Also, not infrequently the tone is condescending and the words chosen are that I will not be capable rather than confirming that I am capable or, best of all, neutral with no assumptions.

Exactly. They should ask everyone if they are willing and able.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

limping pax with walking sticks should have seating reallocated at checkin or boarding gate and not once boarded. Leaving it until everyone is seated is too late.

I do not mind being asked if I can operate the emergency exit as long as everyone else is asked (i.e. do not assume that anyone is fit to do so) and would prefer that everyone is asked: that is safwer but not always the case. Also, not infrequently the tone is condescending and the words chosen are that I will not be capable rather than confirming that I am capable or, best of all, neutral with no assumptions.

It is absolutely not too late to move passengers once everyone is seated. In fact it is the law to do so. Check-in acts as a filter, as do gate staff, but ultimate responsibility is on the crew to ensure passengers seated in exit rows comply. A final opportunity rests with passengers themselves to raise something with the crew.

If they told you it's too late, that really should be escalated or reported.

 

[whatmeworry]

When I have been in the exit row, at the gate and in the plane, the crew always ask if I can help in case of an emergency.