Age of exit row passengers - the higher end of the spectrum

[JohnK]

I don't care how often you fly...the newspaper is not that important.

The real bad ones are the ones that continue talking loudly when the safety demonstration starts. The FAs are too polite.

 

[jb747]

The real bad ones are the ones that continue talking loudly when the safety demonstration starts. The FAs are too polite.

Perhaps we should run a quiz. If you can't get 80% right you're downgraded.

 

[whatmeworry]

I have seen Ryanair FA's be more assertive with childish pax then legacy FA's.

 

[tgh]

On my last flight with VA I was seating next to the Emergency aisle window seat. All 3 pax on the other side were at least in their mid 70's.

Needless to say, if they plane did go down, I would have been yelling "Come with me, if you want to live!".

Ageism is as Ageism does…. an offensive post.
I might well find myself carrrying a noisy panic stricken lifesaver like you out the door.
All sorts of people panic in the face of death or disaster ….

 

[Caversham04]

But once taking off in Peru people were not even seated and we were rolling and leaving the ground. (but there were special circumstances we had to rush)

Out of interest - what were the circumstances? Presumably getting out of the way pronto.......?

 

[whatmeworry]

All 3 looked frail. Don't know how they got an exit row, let allowed to seat there. As I was seating in the exit row, I gave extra attention to the safety presentation. Whereas those across the aisle from me were engrossed in their reading material.

I guessing your showing your age by missing the pop cultural reference I made.

 

[tgh]

All 3 looked frail. Don't know how they got an exit row, let allowed to seat there. As I was seating in the exit row, I gave extra attention to the safety presentation. Whereas those across the aisle from me were engrossed in their reading material.

I guessing your showing your age by missing the pop cultural reference I made.

Perhaps I am.
Is it my problem to decipher offensive-v- inoffensive content .. or yours not to post it ?
My previous comment stand.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

One very real risk with these doors is that if they are brought inboard, and then the trample starts, that whoever ends up with the door on their lap will be trapped.

I read a study on this... which IIRC seemed to suggest almost always passengers 'get it right' in terms of following the actual instructions... if the instructions are to 'throw the hatch out' then they do. The problem is with the remaining safety cards instructing passengers to pull the hatch inwards and stow it in the aircraft (although again as a subset of that, where the instruction was to bring the hatch in, in most cases it was stowed as per instruction).

Sure there will the the occasion where it doesn't go to plan... but that applies equally to crew.

 

[NM]

Perhaps we should run a quiz. If you can't get 80% right you're downgraded.

Downgraded from a middle seat in a non-exit row on a 737 economy cabin? Bring it on!

I have observed since the change in rules regarding operation of electronic devices "throughout the flight" that there are a lot of passengers who have their eyes buried in phones and iPads during the safety briefing. During an emergency, I don't want my life dependent on someone who can multi-task - I want someone who is alert, focused and getting the job done.

 

[Hvr]

<snip> that there are a lot of passengers who have their eyes buried in phones and iPads during the safety briefing. <snip>

But if they're not using their iPads etc how can they upload it to social media when an emergency happens?

 

[Borisdog]

My personal belief is that if Biggles loses it and we hit the floor at 400 knots then it won't matter what the exit row does. I just like the extra room.
It is , however, polite to listen.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

My personal belief is that if Biggles loses it and we hit the floor at 400 knots then it won't matter what the exit row does. I just like the extra room.
It is , however, polite to listen.

And perhaps that is part of the problem. many people express the view that there is nothing that can be done in the event of an emergency... and that if you crash that will be the end.

of course the overwhelming evidence is that that is not the case. Many are entirely survivable, and being able to prepare yourself, and get out in time, will make all the difference.

 

[Borisdog]

Yep, pulling the Perspex flap off and then pulling the handle down and watching the door open up and away from me whilst I check for fire, smoke and obstructions should challenge the **** out of me.

I always go for the window exit seat, so if the poo does hit the fan then I'm a chance. The odds are miniscule, but I do love bantering with safety naz_s.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yep, pulling the Perspex flap off and then pulling the handle down and watching the door open up and away from me whilst I check for fire, smoke and obstructions should challenge the **** out of me.

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Case in point... you wouldn't open the exit and then check for fire or obstructions... you'd do that before opening the exit

 

[Borisdog]

Every man ( or woman ) for himself

 

[BD1959]

Yep, pulling the Perspex flap off and then pulling the handle down and watching the door open up and away from me whilst I check for fire, smoke and obstructions should challenge the **** out of me.

I've often wondered ... how do you judge smoke at night?

Regards,

BD

 

[BD1959]

My personal belief is that if Biggles loses it and we hit the floor at 400 knots then it won't matter what the exit row does. I just like the extra room.
It is , however, polite to listen.

Hopefully the lessons of Kegworth have been fully appreciated/implemented ... otherwise it's row 22 on the 737 which should be getting the exit row briefing!!

Regards,

BD

 

[Caversham04]

And perhaps that is part of the problem. many people express the view that there is nothing that can be done in the event of an emergency... and that if you crash that will be the end.

of course the overwhelming evidence is that that is not the case. Many are entirely survivable, and being able to prepare yourself, and get out in time, will make all the difference.

Agreed - I was nominated to give a presentation on flight safety at work and found the following statistics during my research (can't remember the source; possibly Popular Mechanics?):

1. In a study of over 500 American aircraft accidents, a combined total of more than 90% of passengers survived
2. Even for the "worst" 26 crashes, more than 50% survived
3. I also found a quoted statement that it’s estimated that up to 30% of those who have died in airplane accidents could have survived if they’d responded better

…… is your life worth 2 minutes of your time during each flight, to pay attention to the briefing and to prepare mentally for an accident, which is most likely to occur on take-off or landing, one of which is obviously only a few minutes away if the briefing's in progress?

 

[$CJ]

More fun this week with a group of completely uncooperative young men allowed to remain in the exit row; and another where we weren't even asked if we understood/agree with the procedures. Increasingly the briefings are half-hearted and include an apologetic "sorry we have to do this".

 

[grrofunger]

More fun this week with a group of completely uncooperative young men allowed to remain in the exit row; and another where we weren't even asked if we understood/agree with the procedures. Increasingly the briefings are half-hearted and include an apologetic "sorry we have to do this".

I've sat in an exit row heaps of times this year , not once have i been asked about or informed of any extra safety procedures etc etc