747 Crew Rest seats appearing as the bulkhead

[MEL_Traveller]

Back to the seat. For one of my upcoming flights, I've been allocated 41H - right behind the aforementioned crew rest area. Any comments on this seat, apart from it being close to the loos.

Flight is rather empty at the moment (at least from the seat map), so I can still move around...

if you can get a bulkhead then that might be the way to go.

but as for those seats they are fairly 'private' in a private cabin. usually get first crack at the food etc.

as the seats are only used for part of the flight, and I have never seen them reclined, you should benefit from the extra space to be able to watch telly.

 

[kempvet]

Back to the seat. For one of my upcoming flights, I've been allocated 41H - right behind the aforementioned crew rest area. Any comments on this seat, apart from it being close to the loos.

Flight is rather empty at the moment (at least from the seat map), so I can still move around...

At least on my recent QF 747 flight this was the situation,

the crew rest seats are curtained off, so you can't see ahead, and I suppose this may cause an issue about feeling a little closed in, which may cause a concern for some people, you are near to the loos but you can't really hear that much and you don't notice it as you would have to turn your head to the side and backwards a little to see the loos. I liked the seat as you can recline the seat and leave it there (only crew take off seats behind you) and not being told to raise it for meals. Just tell the FA not to crash into their seat behind you as sometime you can sense the movement, and there is none of that annoying issue when people behind you pull on your seat to get out of theirs.

One good point on my flight, you were fed first, and I imagine that this would be the case in most of these flight, so that you can settle into the flight more quickly.

For people who like to be in their own world, not bothered by anything other than the usual loo requests from neighbors, it is a quiet part of the plane, and you get off and on reasonably quickly.

 

[Leumas]

Thanks for the comments so far. Would you pick 40D or 40G (the bulkhead) over 41H?

I must say, I've started picked the last row of a section more now, just so I can recline all the time...

 

[dfcatch]

Thanks for the comments so far. Would you pick 40D or 40G (the bulkhead) over 41H?

I must say, I've started picked the last row of a section more now, just so I can recline all the time...

Personally - I would pick 40G

 

[kempvet]

Thanks for the comments so far. Would you pick 40D or 40G (the bulkhead) over 41H?

I must say, I've started picked the last row of a section more now, just so I can recline all the time...

Would you pick 40D or 40G (the bulkhead) over 41H?

definitely yes, if the flight is not full, likely they will not place a passenger next to you, so lift the armrest, you have more leg room being at the bulkhead (not really a bulkhead but rather the thinner partition between the beginning of Y and the end of PE) and no one is behind you, so recline to your leisure, plus all the other mentioned advantages of 41H. If you have platinum status, it is the seat that you should go for IMO, I will be in future flights.

SWMBO is gold, and we have a toddler (apprentice SWMBO) and I am platinum, we are thinking of purchasing 3 Y seats and trying to score a free seat between us so we can lift the armrest and the aprentice can sleep over 2 seats, it would be our best case senario to score 40 DEFG (with a free seat) only paying for three Y fares.

Also being the Y/PE partition and not a real firm structure, there are no cribs, and I doubt that you will hear the noise from the infants in the regular part of Y

 

[Voyages]

SWMBO is gold, and we have a toddler (apprentice SWMBO) and I am platinum, we are thinking of purchasing 3 Y seats and trying to score a free seat between us so we can lift the armrest and the aprentice can sleep over 2 seats, it would be our best case senario to score 40 DEFG (with a free seat) only paying for three Y fares.

I am pretty sure that the armrests are immovable in the bulkhead row.

40G is my favourite seat when I travel solo in Y.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I am pretty sure that the armrests are immovable in the bulkhead row.

40G is my favourite seat when I travel solo in Y.

I was going to say the same thing but I wasn't sure if the bulkhead centre seats allowed the armrest right in the middle to be raised (between the E and F seats - but that might be on another airline...)

 

[kempvet]

it is not really a bulkhead, rather a thin partition between the beginning of Y and the end of PE, but can see what you guys mean, if there are tray tables and IFE things to raise, then perhaps you are correct, does make sense that you can't simply lift the armrest. Also as I remember on my recent flight, I thought stange, when I looked at the others in 40A to G, none of them lifted the armrest, thought that this would lead to more comfort, it is likely that you guys are correct and they can not be lifted.

 

[serfty]

Personally - I would pick 40G

Would you pick 40D or 40G (the bulkhead) over 41H?
...

I am pretty sure that the armrests are immovable in the bulkhead row.

40G is my favourite seat when I travel solo in Y.

ABosultly 40G; plenty of leg room - note this is the Kangaroo config,.

 

[kempvet]

ABosultly 40G; plenty of leg room - note this is the Kangaroo config,.

Is there an equivalent seat with the features and advantages of 40G on the A380?

 

[serfty]

50C is as close as you'd get, but ~10 cm less leg room and always the chance the bassinet is being used.

388 has far better (non exit) then 50C or 40G seating in 80A/K and 71D.

 

[kempvet]

50C is as close as you'd get, but ~10 cm less leg room and always the chance the bassinet is being used.

388 has far better (non exit) then 50C or 40G seating in 80A/K and 71D.

do you know if the row 40 is the same in the newly configured 747's, ie still like a mini cabin with the toilets at the back and Y/PE partition at the front, but with the A380 like seats (is there 8 or 10 seats across the plane)?

 

[serfty]

do you know if the row 40 is the same in the newly configured 747's, ie still like a mini cabin with the toilets at the back and Y/PE partition at the front, but with the A380 like seats (is there 8 or 10 seats across the plane)?

Never been in one of the newly configured aircraft - eventaully someone may post a tr.

 

[RSD]

Where is the "detailed seat chart" found - I can't recall ever seeing anything with that label before.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Where is the "detailed seat chart" found - I can't recall ever seeing anything with that label before.

An example is here: http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-14P66J40PY187Y.pdf

you can see at row 52 seats HJK are not marked and are crew seats. They've updated the seat maps, those seats used to be clearly marked as crew, but not now. However, you can see pax seating in that cabin begins at row 53HJK, and the seat count is 47, which therefore excludes 52HJK from passenger use.

Anyone with seat allocation 53HJK may be told at check-in that this was the first row of economy on that side (especially at an out-station not familiar with the internal configuration) - but as you can see it is not a bulkhead.

The detailed seat chart is more comprehensive than the seat map you are given to select your seats from (which won't show the additional rows as crew seats).

this map here clearly shows the crew rest marked at row 38: http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-56J40PY275Y.pdf

 

[Kangol]

I have this flight coming up:

So it looks like 39HJK is behind a crew rest row:
http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-56J40PY275Y.pdf

Would there be much difference in legroom between 38 C and D (besides risking being moved for the bassinet position in 38D)?
On the other hand, 38C will have two people "climbing" over you and 38D potentially only one.

 

[kempvet]

I have this flight coming up:

So it looks like 39HJK is behind a crew rest row:
http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-56J40PY275Y.pdf

Would there be much difference in legroom between 38 C and D (besides risking being moved for the bassinet position in 38D)?
On the other hand, 38C will have two people "climbing" over you and 38D potentially only one.

I know some people do not like 39HJK as it feels a little closed in when the crew rest curtains are all pulled across, therefore in my opinion 38D and 38G are better seats for this reason plus more legroom. Also I find that the bassinet at 38DEFG is not often used as they usually prefer to seat WPs in this area, of course there will be parents placed here if the other 4 bassinets in Y are taken. You would have to check at check in if the bassinets at 38DEFG. Usually the bassinets are free (but not always), the last 10 flights I have had on the 747 in these areas, the bassinets have never been in use, doesn't mean that they won't be on your flight.

38C usually has enough leg room due to the bulkhead so that 38A can simply step over your feet, there will be no reclining seats in front of 38C to limit the space.

 

[dodgeyhack]

do you know if the row 40 is the same in the newly configured 747's, ie still like a mini cabin with the toilets at the back and Y/PE partition at the front, but with the A380 like seats (is there 8 or 10 seats across the plane)?

It's similar, I think the front row is 43 now. No crew rest there so bulkhead both sides.
2 rows of seats between the bulkhead and the loos. 10 across, 3 4 3.
See here: http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/your-questions/qf-y-front-row-747-a-41436.html

 

[Kangol]

I know some people do not like 39HJK as it feels a little closed in when the crew rest curtains are all pulled across, therefore in my opinion 38D and 38G are better seats for this reason plus more legroom. Also I find that the bassinet at 38DEFG is not often used as they usually prefer to seat WPs in this area, of course there will be parents placed here if the other 4 bassinets in Y are taken. You would have to check at check in if the bassinets at 38DEFG. Usually the bassinets are free (but not always), the last 10 flights I have had on the 747 in these areas, the bassinets have never been in use, doesn't mean that they won't be on your flight.

38C usually has enough leg room due to the bulkhead so that 38A can simply step over your feet, there will be no reclining seats in front of 38C to limit the space.

Thanks, although I now see this:

Looks like it's changed to another config.

Am I right in saying that this is the config for my new QF21:
http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-14P66J40PY187Y.pdf

And that the seats in rows 29 or 30 are the Skybed Mk I?
(with rows 34-39 being PE seats)

 

[gogo419]

Correct!! Nab those business seats ASAP! I managed to get three of us into Y+ seats a couple of weeks back for the same flight! No luck coming back however..

although now I look at row numbers that config is different to what we had in economy. What date is your flight??