2019 Federal Election Discussion

[Pushka]

There are usually only a few early voting centres so doesn’t surprise me that there are only 4 listed.

There used to be one not far away but that doesn’t appear. And given a very large percentage of people now pre vote then I’d have expected more to be open. I’ll wait a couple of days. I think my last pre vote was before a QM2 Cruise, maybe that was a state election.

 

[CaptJCool]

I'll beg to disagree. Preferences have given many a politician their seat.

My belief is that whilst preferences are important so that the voter's choices are respected, too many people don't actually understand or even give enough thought to where their preferences flow. They blindly follow the how to vote cards of their chosen party.

If more people thought through their votes we may get a different sort of parliament.

Actually. Turns out it’s heavily skewed to labor.

Apparently 86% of federal Seats won by the trailing candidate have been Labor wins. Only 2 seats where the LNP leapfrogged Labor....

 

[CaptJCool]

I find that the women he is using on the TV appear quite effective to be honest. And if people are oblivious to CP himself, and let’s face it, there are a whole lot of people who just don’t tune in to anything political, then he may just have more of an influence than we expect.

So many people out there just don’t care, and they vote!

Yea

What will be interesting is how many votes does $50 million buy....

Can’t see UAP winning any lower house seats even though Clive won Fairfax by a fingers & toes majority. As Xenophon discovered its a long way from 25% to 50%....

For the Senate, they need 14% to win a quota with the last 13.9% left winning nothing. (Quota is approximately 1/7 of 100%)

 

[JessicaTam]

Am not sure how many folks are going to attempt numbering 67 spots on our Senate voting slip. We do it to make sure the ones we want out are down the very bottom but that is just us I think.

Same here. It takes a little time and thought, but I do get a warm inner glow that some snoozer isn't going to get a free ticket from me.

 

[dajop]

Same here. It takes a little time and thought, but I do get a warm inner glow that some snoozer isn't going to get a free ticket from me.

I always used to do my numbering of candidates backwards (from last to first). Although in all likelihood meaningless, I do take pleasure from putting candidates I dislike the most last in the preference order. Always difficult decision whether to put the extreme left candidates or the extreme right candidates last.

 

[moa999]

Apparently 86% of federal Seats won by the trailing candidate have been Labor wins.

Not a surprise given the Greens preferences go to Labor fairly strongly.

Less minor parties on the right, and One Nation preferences flow almost 50/50 (51-60 range to LNP over history)

I'll beg to disagree. Preferences have given many a politician their seat.

Didn't say they were unimportant.. just preference deals are much less relevant for minor parties who don't have the resources (volunteers) to distribute HTV cards so they don't get followed

You can see this in voting trends. Even the major parties only typically get 40-50% following the HTV cards.

In any event I'd think most of Palmer's votes would typically flow to the LNP anyway

 

[get me outta here]

I see Fraser Anning’s goons are at it again.

Fraser Anning supporter charged with assault and intimidation following altercation with media

The 19-year-old has been charged by police after a scuffle at Senator Anning's press conference.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Dr Ralph]

Only for a valid reason such as if you are unable to vote on the day at a polling centre.

'Valid' reasons have been expanded and now include you having a reasonable fear for your safety.

 

[odysseus]

'Valid' reasons have been expanded and now include you having a reasonable fear for your safety.

The valid reasons I gave are the official ones from the AEC. We're also fortunate to not have a safety problem at polling places, any more than the safety issue at airports that is the starter of this thread.

 

[Franky]

True democracy requires us to have voluntary voting. This was originally the case in Australia, but sadly, no more.

At polling booths, one sees a very large number of disenchanted voters who come in, against their will, and either vote informal or vote Labor/Greens.

Far better for democracy that results aren't skewed because of this cohort who don't care about politics voting by compulsion.

Hats off to those many countries that have voluntary voting.

Many reforms to the voting process have been advocated by Coalition MPs over the years but the ALP in particular has a huge vested interest in maintaining compulsory voting, preferably with as few identity checks on voters as possible. It was the political party most skilled in the 'vote early, vote often' modus operandi that I jokingly referred to in the heading.

Anyway, given your experience at MEL with the AEC, unless it's an omission by the AEC that's to be rectified in the list, why aren't there early voting centres at Melbourne and Sydney airports (and others, but I've not checked them) in 2019?

How do you know who they're voting for?...

 

[VPS]

So if I'm from country SA and want to vote in woop woop in Queensland, will they have a voting slip for me from my electorate?

 

[Hvr]

So if I'm from country SA and want to vote in woop woop in Queensland, will they have a voting slip for me from my electorate?

Yes; if not they can hand write one for you that is valid.

 

[serfty]

Yes; if not they can hand write one for you that is valid.

Yes, from my days as a "Returning Officer" of varying categories, there are voting "blanks" and a resource containing information for every ballot paper in Australia that day.

 

[VPS]

Yes, from my days as a "Returning Officer" of varying categories, there are voting "blanks" and a resource containing every ballot paper in Australia.

Interesting logistical scenario

 

[airbound]

Yes, from my days as a "Returning Officer" of varying categories, there are voting "blanks" and a resource containing information for every ballot paper in Australia that day.

I thought that polling places were only able to issue absent votes for districts within their own State/Territory. I don't think that a polling place in Queensland will be able to issue a ballot paper for a South Australian district.

In particular, we have to keep the Senate ballot paper in mind. Polling places don't carry interstate Senate ballot papers, and there's no way they could write one out. Voters who are interstate on election day would need to vote at a dedicated interstate voting facility, by postal vote, or by pre-poll in their home state.

 

[Hvr]

I thought that polling places were only able to issue absent votes for districts within their own State/Territory. I don't think that a polling place in Queensland will be able to issue a ballot paper for a South Australian district.

I'll go back to my own experience, we had ballot papers for every electorate in Australia as well as Senate papers.

 

[airbound]

I'll go back to my own experience, we had ballot papers for every electorate in Australia as well as Senate papers.

That was an early voting centre though, wasn't it, not an ordinary election day polling place? I don't think that ordinary election day polling places are equipped to issue interstate votes.

See: Voting options

 

[Hvr]

That was an early voting centre though, wasn't it, not an ordinary election day polling place?

Yes, you're correct. Not sure about normal polling places.

 

[serfty]

I thought that polling places were only able to issue absent votes for districts within their own State/Territory.

My experiences are rather dated with the most recent being 4 decades ago.

So things may have changed.

In any case, I wonder how many "interstate voting centre" 's will be available and where?

 

[cove]

My view that Bill Shorten could not run a pay toilet still stands. I just cannot figure how this bumbling dope beat off better applicants for the job in the Labor Party. Lifting taxes in a weak economy is a pretty risky thought bubble.
Have figured out how to vote so my vote does not leak away. 67 in our senate paper but we can just do 12 below the line.
We are voting on Monday.